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Author Topic:   Expectations For The New Obama Democrat Government
Buzsaw
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Message 291 of 341 (500265)
02-24-2009 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 287 by kuresu
02-24-2009 3:29 AM


Re: Topic Update
kuresu writes:
3. Well, for being an advocate of a weaker military he's done an odd thing in ordering 17,000 more troops to afghanistan. As to those DoD budget cuts that Fox reported on a while back--I never found them reported anywhere else except Fox and extreme right-wing media. Let's see what his budget says. Besides, cuts are probably good--you do know that there are multiple weapons programs that are bloated, right?
Atlas Shrug sets the record straight. What Obama is doing is to send our troops in and pull the rug from under them so as to prevent them from winning, just as Johnson did to our troops in Viet Nam.
Barrack Hussein Obama has demonstrated whose side he's on. He, son of Islam and churched for 2 decades in a Nation of Islam promoting church, has already released two dangerous terrorists from prosecution and confinement to be free to continue their Jihad war against America and Israel.
Our military risks their lives to kill and haul in the terrorists. Their commander in chief releases them back into their Jihad war on America to kill and wound more of the soldiers under his command. Go and figure, Kuresu.
OBAMA TO CUT MILITARY SPENDING BY 25%
WE DONT NEED NO STINKIN FANCY WEAPONS!
As global jihad bares its teeth and goes nuclear Obambi surrenders. This, of all his national suicidal plans, is the worst. I guess he'll cut weapons programs and give them to the Muslim world when he convenes his Muslim summit.
OBAMA WILL SLASH MILITARY SPENDING BY 25% Trafalgar
In 2007, Barack Obama appeared before the far-left pacifist group, Caucus for Priorities, and promised to disarm America.
His 132-word pledge can be seen on YouTube (link below). Among his promises: "I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems."
Today, Representative Barney Frank (D-Mass.) indicated how Obama's plans to gut the military would be translated into budgetary allocations. Frank told the editorial board of The Standard-Times that the Democrats would slash military spending by 25%, forcing American to withdraw from Iraq sooner. Rep. Frank said, "We don't need all these fancy new weapons."
Rep. Frank also called for massive increases in federal spending for social programs and increased taxes.
As president, Obama would take office while two wars are raging, and as the first new commander-in-chief since the attacks of 9/11 brought down the World Trade Center and directly hit the Pentagon.
His own vice-presidential candidate Joe Biden warned that his election would spur a major international crisis of great danger. But Barney Frank assures voters that Obama remains serious about gutting the military and disarming America.
There's too much in your message for one message, so I'll begin here.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 295 of 341 (500275)
02-24-2009 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 293 by kuresu
02-24-2009 10:41 AM


Re: Topic Update
kuresu writes:
Ah yes, your source is an extreme right-wing blog. From october 2008. From before he was even elected. From before he decided to send 17,000 more troops to afghanistan. From what I read, fox news reported a 10% cut in the defense budget, or about 55 billion dollars. This was in february I believe (that or late january).
Perhaps you should find a more current source? And a more objective source would be nice, but I doubt you can find one.
In other words, you don't have a substantive response other than to point me to other outdated crazies.l
My point has not been refuted. His plans are to begin cutting the military defense systems and other military expenditure while he increases boots on the ground in dangerous Afghanistan.
During his campaign he revealed his long term plan to undermine the military and our defense systems and technology. So as not to arouse the folks he begins with the 10% amount.
Our stealth Commander In Chief has just begun to undercut America's role in the Middle East. I'm concerned about the safety of our troops under the command of this mysterious man who's father and step father were Muslim Kenyans and his mentors have been enemies of the nation and military which he presides over.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 303 of 341 (500326)
02-24-2009 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 300 by Rahvin
02-24-2009 3:18 PM


Re: Topic Update
Rahvin writes:
He's not the "stealth" Commander in Chief, Buz. He is the Commander in Chief. He's not some hidden commander directing the military from behind the scenes,he's the lawfully elected President of teh United States.
Your lack of understanding relative to our president's life, ambitions and ideologies confirms the fact that he is a stealth president.
Rahvin writes:
Obama is not his father. Obama is not his stepfather. Muslim != "terrorist." "Terrorist" != Muslim. Obama is not Kenyan. Kenyan != "terrorist."
What? Obama is not his own father?
True or false: Obama's father and stepfather were Kenyan Muslims.
Rahvin writes:
Obama is not his friends and acquaintances. .........
Rahvin, when you sober up or when your meds wear off get back to me. OK?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 312 of 341 (500401)
02-26-2009 12:17 AM
Reply to: Message 306 by onifre
02-24-2009 7:22 PM


Re: Dronester Vs Buz
onifre writes:
Buz gets his news from local tv, and the folks at Fox and Friends, or any of the other generic, watered down, controled news outlets on US tv. That is why Al-Jazeera was not allowed here, people would lose their miinds if they knew certain facts about their puppet-like country/politicians.
I get my info from many sources. I do my homework. I've linked plenty of support for most of what I've posted from the primaries until the inauguration. You people like to ignore it all and attack me for presenting data which should awaken you. I can understand folks who've never been exposed to the truth but you sheeples just don't care. You sheeples are like the sheeples which supported Hitler back in the 1930s in Germany. They thought he walked on water and could turn water into wine also.
The only groups which voted the majority for Obama were the under 25 and the blacks. Blacks voted 94% Obama. That should tell you something. This was a racist campaign and racist victory and some of you sheeples think I'm the racist bigot simply for presenting facts as well as questionable reasons to not have gambled the highest office to a stealth individual who few really know or understand.
Perhaps you should go back through the other Obama threads and review some of the unrefuted stuff which I posted before criticizing my sources of info. Fox is just one of my numerous sources of info. What are yours, Onifre? NBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, all of which were in the tank for Obama and none of which revealed a smidget of the truth about him?
Btw, who's covering the recent beheading of a Buffalo NY wife by a Muslim notable for filing a divorce from him and other alarming stuff going on around the country since the mosques have multiplied across the nation?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 313 of 341 (500404)
02-26-2009 12:49 AM
Reply to: Message 311 by bluescat48
02-25-2009 10:02 AM


Re: Stereotyping is crap
bluescat writes:
It does not matter if B Obama is:
a Muslim, a Christian, a Buddhist or an Atheist,
That he si black, white, green or skybluepink,
that he is friends or enemies with Hilary Clinton, G W Bush, John McCain or Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young,
it matters not on his ability to govern.
1. It matters if he denies he was ever a Muslim but enrolled in Catholic and Muslim schools in Indonesia by his father or step father.
2. It matters not if Obama is black, but what matters is that he and his family supported and attended a black supremest racist church for 20 years whose pastor associated with the militant Nation Of Islam, honoring their leader.
3. Mmm, I see you conveniently left out mentor Frank Marshall Davis, communist, Bill Ayers, terrorist, Jeremiah Wright, radical racist pastor and the present ruthless Muslim dictator of Kenya, Obama's cousin, whom Obama supported against the wishes of the Christian majority of the Kenyan people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44GW6MpObcs

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 329 of 341 (500489)
02-26-2009 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 315 by DrJones*
02-26-2009 1:04 AM


Re: Bare Assertion Jones
DrJones writes:
Lie.
Bare Assertion
DrJones writes:
Lie
Bare assertion

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 330 of 341 (500493)
02-26-2009 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 326 by Asgara
02-26-2009 2:51 PM


Re: OH NO
Princess Asgara writes:
What's your point buz? Is this suppose to support your view that the Muslims are dangerous?
Well hello there, madear official EvC princess. If nothing else, my message moved you to grace us with your input. We need to see more of you.
Now, come, let us reason together. Your first two links were nothing Biblically sanctioned. Likely some demonic entity got into some people who were on some meds or illegal narcotics. The third did not seem to work. I gave up on waiting for it to come in.
My point, Asgara, was that it was via some radio and Fox news that I learned of the bloody barbaric act of this notable Muslim who saw fit to impose Sharia Islamic Law on his wife by decapitating her for filing for divorce. He, like his prophet Mohammed considered women as his possession to be under total dominance of his power. None of the other major media gave this significant story the time of day.
Ironically, this Muslim man was in the business of rendering Islam as compatible with the world. YOU NEED TO SEE THIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBANTc63z58
NOTE: Contrary to the opener of this Utube show, Islam official doctrine does sanction brutality to women.
Btw: Guess what: This man is charged with 2ND DEGREE MURDER for intentional decapitation honor Killian Honor my arse!!
As you recall, Onifre's message to which I responded appeared to demeaned me for getting my info from Fox.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 331 of 341 (500495)
02-26-2009 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 327 by Percy
02-26-2009 3:03 PM


Re: OH NO
Percy writes:
Religious intolerance makes strange bedfellows. There's a branch of atheism that demonizes almost all religions on the grounds that they are dangerous, and Buz probably shares their opinion about all religions but his.
You have it right, Percy. New Testament Christianity is the only religion I know of that is not dangerous. The teachings of Jesus and his apostles bear that out.
That citizens of Protestant Christian US have been the least oppressed by their own governments bears that out as well.
Edited by Buzsaw, : forgot to check spelling

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 334 of 341 (500510)
02-26-2009 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 332 by DrJones*
02-26-2009 7:51 PM


Re: Buz's lies
OK, Jonesy. Let's begin with Message 67.
My response was this:
Buzsaw wrote:
I stand corrected. Obama and his buddy Odinga both claim to be Christians but Odinga sides with the 10% minority Muslum militant faction in Kenya who want to impose Sharia Islamic law in the nation.
I did not lie. I had forgotten the particulars. However, what is interesting here is that both of these men have a history of having connections to Islam but claim to be Christian. Is there a correlation here? Are both stealth Muslims who work to undermine the Christian constituency and to non-candescently aid and abet the advancement of Islam?
Obama, allegedly Christian = Kenyan Muslim father and active in church which promotes Nation of Islam in Christian majority America and undermines the war on terror by releasing dangerous Jehadists and closing Gitmo etc.
Kenyan Odinga, allegedly Christian = Aids and abets horrific violence against Christian majority Kenya.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 335 of 341 (500511)
02-26-2009 8:37 PM
Reply to: Message 333 by Fosdick
02-26-2009 8:04 PM


Re: OH NO
Fosdick writes:
Here’s an argument for why New Testament Christianity is dangerous, because its modern form arrived as Calvinism. Calvinism, according to Max Weber, is at the heart of acquisitive capitalism, the greedy and corruptive kind we have today. If you get rich that means you are one of the electi, chosen by God to succeed, according to Calvinism. And look at where that electi principle has taken us today: to the dire straits of economic chaos. So, I go along with Weber and blame New Testament Christianity for turning healthy capitalism into acquisitive capitalismthe kind that will do us in. As such, it's dangerous.
Fosdick, this is a strawman. It is not Biblical NT Christianity. Jesus or his apostles never promised worldly riches to anyone for being a Christian. It was the opposite. He said his followers would be hated of the world and would suffer persecution for their faith.
Edited by Buzsaw, : fix quotes

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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