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Author Topic:   Did Joshua stop the sun?
greyline
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Message 1 of 9 (49820)
08-10-2003 10:20 PM


This is a continuation of a previous (closed) thread because I didn't get a relevant answer.
I am interested in the evidence that other cultures have a record of the long day when Joshua stopped the sun. I have found references to stories from Mexico, Chile, Greece etc. but no further information about the stories themselves. It's also said that the myths date to the correct time - yet among them Maori is listed, and the Maoris have no written ancient history. That one's obviously bogus.
Some creationists claim that stories of a flood in many cultures is evidence of the biblical flood. I was wondering why there are not stories of a long day in cultures all over the world (or are there?), since this event would have affected and amazed every human on the planet at the time.
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Coragyps
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Message 2 of 9 (49823)
08-10-2003 10:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by greyline
08-10-2003 10:20 PM


And since the Maori as an identifiable group date apparently only to when they came to New Zealand about 1000 AD......

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doctrbill
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Message 3 of 9 (49944)
08-11-2003 11:56 AM
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08-10-2003 10:20 PM


There is a footnote in the Jerusalem Bible (readers edition), which says of Joshua 10:13 -
"Lines from a popular song, appealing for time to secure victory, are here adapted to the author's purpose."
The author also cites the Book of the Just (or Book of Jasher) from which he quotes. This book is quoted elsewhere in the Bible but, unfortunately, is now lost.

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greyline
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Message 4 of 9 (50040)
08-11-2003 8:36 PM
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08-11-2003 11:56 AM


They had pop music back then!?
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doctrbill
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Message 5 of 9 (50052)
08-11-2003 9:42 PM
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08-11-2003 8:36 PM


Sure, why not? Wish I had access to all the lyrics of this one.

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greyline
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Message 6 of 9 (50067)
08-12-2003 12:24 AM
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08-11-2003 9:42 PM


I'm guessing there was a solo trumpet break in the middle.
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Message 7 of 9 (50070)
08-12-2003 1:03 AM
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08-12-2003 12:24 AM


Don't forget the belly dancers and the sackbutt band.

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Minnemooseus
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Message 8 of 9 (50071)
08-12-2003 1:20 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by greyline
08-10-2003 10:20 PM


Back to the topic
But first, the side comment (which is still off-topic):
quote:
Some creationists claim that stories of a flood in many cultures is evidence of the biblical flood.
The evolution side likes to point out the flood myths from other cultures, but I don't recall the creation side trying to make such things a point of support for the "great flood". After all, how would this great flood be recorded by those other cultures, which would have been wiped out by it.
Now (in the semi-admin mode), I suggest that the creationist side be given a chance to respond. I'm assuming the evolution side does not expect to find collaborative support for the "long day", although (I guess) they're welcome to try.
By the way, wouldn't that be the "long night" on the other side of the earth?
Moose
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greyline
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Message 9 of 9 (50072)
08-12-2003 2:03 AM
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08-12-2003 1:20 AM


Re: Back to the topic
quote:
The evolution side likes to point out the flood myths from other cultures, but I don't recall the creation side trying to make such things a point of support for the "great flood". After all, how would this great flood be recorded by those other cultures, which would have been wiped out by it.
I have often heard them use this argument. Those other cultures would presumably be the descendants of the ark survivors. This brings to bear the apparent evidence that those other stories predate the flood, but that's another topic.
Anyway, this is a slightly different turn of logic than the Joshua and his long day story, since that would have been directly witnessed by people who had nothing to do with the biblical stories. I would've thought just about every ancient culture in the world would have created awesome, elaborate myths around this momentous event.
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By the way, wouldn't that be the "long night" on the other side of the earth?
One of the other myths I read about concerned a long night. Unfortunately these myths weren't referenced, which is why I was hoping someone with an interest in the topic could give me more info. Creationists... anyone...?
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