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wj Inactive Member |
TC, you are merely diverting attention from the question to which we are awaiting an answer with bated breath. What is the evidence to support the assertion that the earth, at least, is no more than 10,000 years old?
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: That's exactly what you were doing. So, to repeat the original question, what positive evidence do you have of a 6,000 year old earth? Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"TC, you are merely diverting attention from the question to which we are awaiting an answer with bated breath. What is the evidence to support the assertion that the earth, at least, is no more than 10,000 years old?"
--Evidence, would be the ability for such an age to cope with the assertion that it takes your time-scale to create somthing by which you will date. So what are these examples? ------------------
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"That's exactly what you were doing.
So, to repeat the original question, what positive evidence do you have of a 6,000 year old earth?"--lbhandli accused me as being ignorant from me haveing 'limited knowledge' on the issue. The question that I asked that he accounted ignorance on my part, is, are there any other dating techniques not associated with radiometric dating that gives you 4.5 billion years as your date for the age of the earth. ------------------
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lbhandli Inactive Member |
The POINT was that you would know this answer if you had any knowledge of the field.
Now, if you are in a thread entitled the age of the Earth and you want to discuss it and you are wondering how we come to the age of the Earth, what are you doing then?
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: And the question being asked of you is if there is any positive evidence of a 6,000 year old earth? Rather than knocking a well supported, highly corroborated method. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"The POINT was that you would know this answer if you had any knowledge of the field."
--So there arent any? I would not think there would be any, I was making sure that I wouldn't make any comments in such a topic that would regard this question. It isn't ignorant, its eager to know. "Now, if you are in a thread entitled the age of the Earth and you want to discuss it and you are wondering how we come to the age of the Earth, what are you doing then?"--My question was are there any sort of dating techniques that will also give you an age of the earth's 'existance', not that it is more than 6000 years old. Different questions. -------------------
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edge Member (Idle past 1705 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
quote: I'm not sure why you are asking this question unless it's the old creationist argument that since it cannot be verified by another method we cannot really trust a radiometric date for the age of the earth. The point is that it IS verified by several independent radiometric methods. This would be impossible if the world according to creationists were true. Really, if you want to pursue the argument, I suggest that you think really hard about what methods verify your own concept of the age of the earth. How old does moon dust accumulation suggest the earth is? How about helium escape? Why do you think that these methods seldom result in actual numbers in the creationist press? Do you really think that they agree with one another? I think you will quickly see that this line of questioning does you little good.
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: But the question, once again, asked of you, is....... is there positive evidence of a 6,000 year old earth, in the same way that there is evidence (highly corroborated) of a much older earth? Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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Cobra_snake Inactive Member |
Just to enter a notion into the discussion, how about the salinity of the sea argument?
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bkwusa Inactive Member |
ummm all geolgy sayes is that earth was molten about 4.6 billion years ago and then it cooled off.... as much as we know earth could have been molten entierly severla time and could be who knows how old
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lbhandli Inactive Member |
Instead of a notion, how about an argument.
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lbhandli Inactive Member |
This ignores that there is a lack of evidence that the Earth was molten several times. A lot of things could be, however, this doesn't address the evidence for what is. Meteories also happen to fit the evidence of the age of the solar system that is entirely consistent with the age of the Earth from rock formations.
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wj Inactive Member |
quote: Yes, a notion, and a very wrong one at that. Are you going to present data on the rates of input of (presumably) sodium into the oceans, its current concentration and the rates of output by various mechanisms? Don't forget albitization, whcih removes significant amount of sodium, thus resulting in a system which is near equilibrium. How do you calculate the age of a system in equilibrium? Or are you going to select another mineral? Morris (Scientific creationism, 1974, p154) presented a whole range of ages for the average time metals remain in oceans. Will you pick nickel, as he did, with a retention period of 18,000 years. Why not magnesium with a retention period of 45 M years? Just a notion.
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bkwusa Inactive Member |
quote: actully i have my own theory on that... my theory is that earth was a comment that was caught in the sun's atmosphere...
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