Not Influenced by Surrounding Nations

Interesting that you should mention Akheneten there Caffiene. One rather interesting piece of evidence of cross-cultural pollination is the hymn to the Aten, found in the ruins of Akhenaten's capital. It bears a striking similarity to psalm 104.There is a comparison between the two here; http://kemet.250x.com/psalm104.htmlMutate and Survive

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"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

Hi Ned,I wouldn't say it was thin, but it's certainly far from conclusive. I mention it because it is an interesting piece of evidence.I do think though that the two are eerily close for supposedly unrelated works.Both begin with a general evocation of God's greatness, mention his creation and allude to God being the sun. Both mention that God brings on night, when dangerous beasts roam the land. Both say that God banishes these beasts, come the day (furthering the sun comparison). Both mention that humanity comes out in the day to go to our work. Both make mention of birds by water. Both mention ships. Both mention breath as the God-given animating force. Both stress how God is essential to all things.Compare these lines; I'm not trying to pretend that this proves anything beyond doubt. The two are scarcely word-for-word. The comparison page I linked to has the psalm presented out of order for a start. The similarities are striking though. That both of these are from very early monotheistic faiths makes the comparison interesting and worth mentioning, I think, in a thread like this.Mutate and Survive

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"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

Er... Peg... The Mayans came from Central America ya know. I think you may have some other ancient civilisation in mind. The Mayans were nowhere near the Indus Valley.Mutate and Survive

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"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

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But the Mayans were still similar to the people of the mesopotamia region...they built pyramids and performed the same burial practices that the pharoahs practiced

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They built pyramids yes, but they were radically different to the Egyptian ones. I do not believe that the Mayans used the same embalming practices as the Egyptians or even anything particularly similar.You have found one slight similarity. That is consistent with coincidence. The similarities pointed out by Mod in Message 7 go way beyond that, with a large number of very specific comparisons. This is much harder to put down to coincidence. There must be some link, as you appear to have acknowledged in the case of the flood.As for Mohenjo Daro, why do you assume that the influence (which you have merely alleged, not demonstrated by the way) was all one way? If both cultures shared symbols, what possible reason could you have for assuming that the Indus Valley absorbed Near Eastern culture without giving anything in return? To me, that sounds a little patronising and highly unlikely.Mutate and Survive

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"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

ICANT, you're doing it again.This thread's topic is "Not Influenced by Surrounding Nations" not "ICANT's Bullshit Days of Pelag Theory". Quit trying to divert yet another thread onto your personal obsession.Besides, you're wrong. As Rrhain has pointed out above, you're ridiculous theory is contradicted by multiple lines of evidence. By the time humanity came upon the scene, the continents were in pretty much their current form. If you think that the Bible says different, that means the Bible is wrong. Again.If you want to talk about your silly little theory, go post a thread. You know how it works, or at least should do by now.Mutate and Survive.

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"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

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Swastika symbols were found at Samarra, north of Baghdad, on the Tigris, and in early settlement stratum of Susa or Shushan showing that they existed first in ancient Mesopotamia. I think that suffices as evidence and not assumption.

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It demonstrates nothing. A swastika is a very simple geometric design. It is found in scores of cultures and is utterly ubiquitous. Pointing out that both cultures had swastikas is not proof of any influence between the two cultures, in either direction. They could very easily (and probably did) develop the symbol independently. Native Americans also had swastikas, long before they were contacted by Europeans. Were they influenced by the ancient Near East?

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I know that Mayan pyramids are quite different to most egyption ones,

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but the egyptions did build step pyramids which are quite similar as these pics show

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Now you seem to be arguing in the opposite direction. The similarities between the Mayans and the ancient Egyptians are slight and can easily be put down to coincidence. They clearly did not influence each other, not least because the step pyramid you show was built some 3000 years before Chichen Itza. Again, this shows that small similarities can arise even without cultural contact. I have no idea why you would argue against this, as it would seem to support your argument.The point here is that the similarities Mod has been pointing out are much more specific than anything you have been able to point to. Why not address this by dealing with the similarities between the Bible and the Code of Hammurabi that are detailed in Message 76?Also, your claim that "all ancient writings originated in the mesopotamia" is clearly wrong. Mayan writing is not related to Mesopotamia and the only similarity between Mayan and Old World culture that you can point to is superficial.Mutate and Survive

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"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

Hi Ned,

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It is the combination of technology and physics not coincidence that produces the similarities.

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Now that Sir, is an excellent point. I stand corrected. Mutate and Survive

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"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade