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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
By including these in the same category you are saying that there is a significant controversy over these ideas and that alternative explanations exist. No, that is not what I am saying. That is why I didn't say anything remotely like that in any way. I thought that my point was quite simple. The absence of "creator based evolution" from high-school curricula does not make evolution "atheistic" any more than the absence of a "creator based periodic table" from high-school curricula makes chemistry "atheistic". --- I don't see how the existence of "significant controversy" changes that. If you think it does, here's some questions for you. If some religious cult were to arise in the future that objected to the periodic table on religious grounds, would it as a consequence become "atheistic"? Some people still object to Copernicanism on religious grounds. Is that "atheistic"? How about the proposition that the Earth is not flat? There are still some hold-outs, again on religious grounds --- so is it "atheistic"? And if so, will the round Earth stop being an "atheistic" concept with the death of the last Flat-Earther? If that "controversy" isn't "significant" enough to make the round Earth an "atheistic" concept, then the question arises: how many religious kooks does it take to make a scientific concept "atheistic"? Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Daniel4140 Member (Idle past 5734 days) Posts: 61 Joined: |
quote: 1. God man man in his own image, so man is unique. Point number one undermines this truth from the bible.2. No species changes outside the genetic and viral programs that God designed. The genetic program is variable by design. 3. We don't want evolutionists dictating to us. That's why we homeschool our kids. We don't want our taxes spent on evolutionary research either. That's just a recipie for enslavement to a totalitarian elite and newspeak. Long live the empire! Learn what you want, teach what you want, but don't involve us or our hard earned money. 4. They most certainly contradict the bible. The bible charges parents with the responsibiltiy of teaching God's commandments to children. That means the Sabbath, which is the sign that God created the world in six days. 5. What ought to be taught is biblical chronology as in "torah" and "times", because the who difference between evolutionists and creations boils down to "time". Biblical chronology stands on its own, without contradiction, and is self verifying (like with prophecies that come true on time). It demonstrates the sheer nonsense of the evolutionary philosophy. Creation 4140 B.C. Flood 2484 B.C Exodus 1632 B.C. Online Chronology book: The Scroll of Biblical Chronology
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4440 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
1. God man man in his own image, so man is unique. Point number one undermines this truth from the bible. Biggest ego trip. Man made God in his image. The bible is at best alligorical, at worst mythology.
That's just a recipie for enslavement to a totalitarian elite and newspeak. That is what occurred under the Bush Whitehouse, with is faith based inititives and disregard to the Constitution. There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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alaninnont Member (Idle past 5687 days) Posts: 107 Joined: |
I thought that my point was quite simple. The absence of "creator based evolution" from high-school curricula does not make evolution "atheistic" any more than the absence of a "creator based periodic table" from high-school curricula makes chemistry "atheistic". You missed my point. You are right. Evolution is not atheistic. There are some who believe that evolution happened with the aid of a creator and some who believe that it happened without. As far as I am aware, the evolution that is taught in school is without, atheistic evolution.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
You missed my point. You are right. Evolution is not atheistic. There are some who believe that evolution happened with the aid of a creator and some who believe that it happened without. As far as I am aware, the evolution that is taught in school is without, atheistic evolution. And there are some who believe that carbon dioxide reacts with water to form carbonic acid without divine intervention. And they are called chemists. Is this atheistic chemistry? If it is atheistic to ascribe natural effects to natural causes, then the whole of science is atheistic, by the very nature of the enterprise.
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Taq Member Posts: 10296 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
You missed my point. You are right. Evolution is not atheistic. There are some who believe that evolution happened with the aid of a creator and some who believe that it happened without. As far as I am aware, the evolution that is taught in school is without, atheistic evolution. You would be wrong. God is never mentioned, nor is God ruled out of the process. As you state, the role or non-role of God in evolution is a belief, not a finding of science.
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Daniel4140 Member (Idle past 5734 days) Posts: 61 Joined: |
Divine intervention is scientific. Science means "knowledge", so if we reasonably find that God intervented, then it is scientific. QED.
Creation 4140 B.C. Flood 2484 B.C Exodus 1632 B.C. Online Chronology book: The Scroll of Biblical Chronology
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
Divine intervention is scientific. So which definition is the same as supernatural intervention.
Sciencebecause I think I missed it. 1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws: the mathematical sciences.2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation. 3. any of the branches of natural or physical science. 4. systematized knowledge in general. 5. knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study. 6. a particular branch of knowledge. 7. skill, esp. reflecting a precise application of facts or principles; proficiency. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 985 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Science means "knowledge", An etymology is not a definition, Daniel. "Testify" means to swear an oath upon one's testicles - but they even let women be witnesses in court these days. And besides, for "divine intervention" to exist, the divine would need to exist. I haven't seen it yet.....
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Divine intervention is scientific. Science means "knowledge", so if we reasonably find that God intervented, then it is scientific. And since we don't, it isn't.
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AdminModulous Administrator (Idle past 235 days) Posts: 897 Joined: |
Since the topic has drifted and we are way overdue. I'm closing this one down.
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