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greyline
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Message 15 of 39 (50304)
08-13-2003 2:49 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Jake22
08-13-2003 2:30 AM


Hi Jake. You do seem very reasonable.
Do you believe in the literal account of Creation?

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greyline
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Message 25 of 39 (50437)
08-13-2003 8:48 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Jake22
08-13-2003 4:36 PM


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I want to get a full picture before making up my mind, which will involve much more extensive research in the future.
Good to hear you are researching both sides of the argument. This is exactly what I did back in those dim dark days when I was a Christian. I found that I tended to believe whichever was the most recent thing I read. "The Fossils Say No"... "The Fossils Say Yes"... it can get confusing (and I was doing a science course at Uni!).
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To answer you, then, I would say that I'm a literalist but that I'm looking to weigh the arguments after researching publications/theories and looking with more depth into the Bible. I realize that's a pretty convoluted response, but does it answer your question well enough?
Thank you, it does. But it prompts another question: regardless of whether Creation took 6 literal days or 6 eons, do I take it that you have rejected evolution?
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greyline
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Message 32 of 39 (50631)
08-15-2003 1:36 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Jake22
08-14-2003 3:49 PM


I'd rather be wrong because I put too much trust in what I believe to be the word of God than to be wrong because I doubted a seemingly clear account.
Putting aside the fact that the account is not actually clear, and contradicts itself, I have to ask: maybe God actually wants us to use our brains as we survey his universe, and delve into its mysteries and formulate theories that explain how things came to be. We only get one life - I like to think that I'm trying to live mine with my eyes open.
If formal evolution were older than 150 and/or repeatable...
The age of the theory (given we're not talking about something that was theorised this morning) doesn't logically have any bearing on whether evolution happened.
Repeatability refers to experimentation not theories. Repeatability is used to gather evidence for (or against) a theory - the mechanisms of evolution have been demonstrated in the lab so I don't see the problem here.
In any case, once again, the fact that evolution generally works on a timescale that is outside human experience logically has no bearing on whether evolution actually happened.
My point here is that I don't think your reasons for rejecting evolution are good ones (ie. logical ones). But maybe you have other reasons.
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