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Author Topic:   Calling Von Cullen - Anti Evolution Molecular Biologist!!
Percy
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Message 5 of 43 (503971)
03-23-2009 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Wounded King
03-23-2009 6:01 PM


Behe accepts most of evolution but claims that it is incapable of producing irreducibly complex microbiological structures, and that their presence is evidence of intelligent design.
--Percy

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Message 10 of 43 (504207)
03-25-2009 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Von Cullen
03-25-2009 7:48 AM


As Ive said before, I'm not "Anti-Evolution".
Well, you've already stated you view much of what is said here as PRATTs for evolution, and that our views are contradicted by 99% of the scientific literature. But you're not "Anti-Evolution".
So you're being about as clear as mud and as contradictory as a kosher Arab. What is it exactly you're trying to say?
--Percy

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Message 14 of 43 (504221)
03-25-2009 11:50 AM
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03-25-2009 11:37 AM


Von Cullen writes:
What the poster fails to mention is that Darwin failed to discover an evolutionary pathway used to make the eye.
There's a great deal that Darwin failed to discover, which is fortunate because it left something for future generations of scientists to do.
You could write for pages and pages about what scientists of prior eras failed to discover, and could even go on for pages and pages about what today's scientists have yet to discover. The whole name of the game in science is tackling unsolved problems, and fortunately there are always lots of those. It isn't much of an accomplishment finding things we don't know yet, and it makes little sense to claim that the things we don't know call into question the things we do.
Saying something "could" have developed in a particular manner isnt the same as providing viable, scientific evidence that it has.
This is true.
This is the problem with societies main stream view of evolutionary science. Possibilities and educated guesses get presented as irrefutable fact.
But your Darwin excerpt is not an example of this.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 18 of 43 (504227)
03-25-2009 12:05 PM
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03-25-2009 11:58 AM


Von Cullen writes:
I was asked to provide an example and I did. Im sorry if that example doesnt suffice.
You were asked to provide an example and you *didn't*. It is hard to see Darwin's phrasing of "I can see no very great difficulty in believing that natural selection [produced the eye]" as a claim of irrefutable fact. Most everyone here is very aware of the tentative nature of science.
--Percy

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Message 19 of 43 (504228)
03-25-2009 12:06 PM
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03-25-2009 12:01 PM


Von Cullen writes:
All mutations still require a starting point.
Your claim to be a molecular biologist isn't consistent with your lack of knowledge about mutations.
--Percy

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Message 28 of 43 (504240)
03-25-2009 2:38 PM


Von Cullen participated over at the Raving Atheists Forum back in January, click on this link for Von Cullen's Post List. He seems to reject both evolution and evangelical Christianity, see for example his post of 1/18/2009.
He was as maddeningly vague over there as he's been here, but at least he didn't tell them he was a molecular biologist.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 41 of 43 (504354)
03-27-2009 3:03 PM
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03-27-2009 1:26 PM


Back on Wednesday when I posted about his participation at the Raving Atheists Forum I also used Google Maps in satellite mode to look at his place of business. The address is on an empty country road with no buildings in sight, take a look: 10651 Wolf Pen Gap Rd, GA 30572
--Percy

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