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MrHambre
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Message 3 of 50 (50245)
08-12-2003 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by roxrkool
08-12-2003 3:47 PM


i know stuff
you evolutionist are always critisizing us like you know what your talking about. just because were kids doesnt mean were not just as smart as you. i think i know more than dosctors and scientists because i havent been brainwashed by the athiest elite/education machine and taught about ape men and apostrophes and stuff. yeah like evolution is real give me a break its inpossible like a 747 flying through a junkyard. noone ever saw it happen so its just a theory anyway. im glad i got kicked out of school you guys are going to hell.
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MrHambre
Member (Idle past 1419 days)
Posts: 1495
From: Framingham, MA, USA
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 11 of 50 (50397)
08-13-2003 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by PaulK
08-13-2003 2:42 PM


quote:
The other problem is how can you tell the age of a poster ?
The Teletubbies avatar is usually a dead giveaway.
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MrHambre
Member (Idle past 1419 days)
Posts: 1495
From: Framingham, MA, USA
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Message 14 of 50 (50423)
08-13-2003 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by truthlover
08-13-2003 5:43 PM


Young idealistic Christian folks are likely to look at themselves as evangelists in the Paul mode, and so inherit the anti-intellectual tradition in which Paul preached. Recall that Paul (in Titus) quoted Epimenides's paradox and missed the irony. He told Titus that a Cretan philosopher had said that "All Cretans are liars," so therefore it must be true.
Beset by learned folks all over the place asking probing theological questions as well as pointing out errors in his logic, Paul defended himself by posing his famous question, "Hath not the Lord made folly of the wisdom of this world?"
The problem is that the answer to the question is no, He hath not. Plenty of people place their faith in the wisdom of this world every day by, for example, flying in a plane. The wisdom of this world has been quite demonstrably adequate in mankind's investigations of nature, where it has helped us find mechanisms for weather, embryology and heredity, the origin of diseases, the motion of celestial objects and many other things previously attributed to the activity of supernatural beings. Are we materialists mere cynics busy unweaving the rainbow? Or are we paying nature the respect it deserves by taking it on its own terms?
Of course the prospect of utter certainty promised by fundamentalism is more attractive to a teenager, already fed up with the learning grind and its demands. Science won't give him that certainty because our knowledge is constantly in process, and the more we know the more we find that remains to be known.
(P.S. to truthlover: There are a few different wordings of the saying here, it means 'in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.')
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MrHambre
Member (Idle past 1419 days)
Posts: 1495
From: Framingham, MA, USA
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Message 20 of 50 (50607)
08-14-2003 7:11 PM


The Attention Span...thing...
One thing that bothers me about our new crop of teenage crusaders is their extremely limited attention span. I've talked to mosquitoes with more focus than xxdeadmnwalkinxx and Zealot combined.
How ironic that Zealot claims he had bad luck on previous boards. I can see why. In two days, he's made 13 posts to 8 different threads, three of which he started himself. Despite a plethora of thoughtful, patient replies to literally every post he's dribbled out, the Z-man hasn't engaged anyone in anything resembling a dialogue. Karl in particular gave him a respectful point-by-point reply in his "1 piece of evidence to disprove evolution" thread, but Zealot returned the favor with more perfunctory ramblings.
Seems Z-man was too busy resurrecting long-dead threads in order to demonstrate his grasp of evolutionary theory as well as his considerable Christian charity with lines like these:
  • Like putting dogs in the snow and when the hairy dogs survive, you say they must have evolved, more likely the ones best suited for the environment survived ?
  • Personally if 2 gay men want to call themselves married, feel free, I couldn't care less, however to do so with the notion that a Christian God approves of it is mockery of the Christian Faith.
  • If you want to base a society on Evolutionary beliefs, you might want to do some research into why Jeffrey Dahmer felt little about killing his victims.
I fully agree that trying to rake these kids over the coals is totally inappropriate. I just wish we could take them at their word that they're here for discussion, since they don't seem able or willing to engage anyone in a dialogue.
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MrHambre
Member (Idle past 1419 days)
Posts: 1495
From: Framingham, MA, USA
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 24 of 50 (50675)
08-15-2003 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by truthlover
08-15-2003 3:28 PM


Truthlover,
I'm no Biblical scholar. But if anyone cares to read the first chapter of Titus, they can decide for themselves whether Paul tripped over or skipped over the irony.
As for your denial that Paul was sick of being shown up by more learned folks, in first Corinthians he mentions the fact that the Jews seek signs and the Greeks want wisdom. That's when he throws his hands up and declares that the wisdom of the world is folly to the Lord.
The attitude is prevalent among the young young-earthers here.
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