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Author Topic:   Calling Von Cullen - Anti Evolution Molecular Biologist!!
Taq
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Message 3 of 43 (503966)
03-23-2009 5:58 PM


If I may, I would offer up the following paper for refutation:
Johnson and Coffin (1999)
It discusses how endogenous retroviruses supply three different types of phylogenetic information. From the article:
Endogenous retrovirus loci provide no less than three sources of phylogenetic signal, which can be used in complementary fashion to obtain much more information than simple distance estimates of homologous sequences. First, the distribution of provirus-containing loci among taxa dates the insertion. . .
Second, as with other sequence-based phylogenetic analyses, mutations in a provirus that have accumulated since the divergence of the species provide an estimate of the genetic distance between the species. . .
Third, sequence divergence between the LTRs at the ends of a given provirus provides an important and unique source of phylogenetic information. The LTRs are created during reverse transcription to regenerate cis-acting elements required for integration and transcription. Because of the mechanism of reverse transcription, the two LTRs must be identical at the time of integration, even if they differed in the precursor provirus (Fig. 1A). Over time, they will diverge in sequence because of substitutions, insertions, and deletions acquired during cellular DNA replication.

  
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Message 20 of 43 (504229)
03-25-2009 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Von Cullen
03-25-2009 11:37 AM


What the poster fails to mention is that Darwin failed to discover an evolutionary pathway used to make the eye.
But Darwin did find viable intermediate stages which is all that was needed to counter the argument that the complexity of the lensed eye required it to appear fully formed, like a watch found on the heath.
To say that it "could", is a rather weak hypothesis. Saying something "could" have developed in a particular manner isnt the same as providing viable, scientific evidence that it has.
A "could have" is all that is needed to counter the argument that "it's impossible".
This is the problem with societies main stream view of evolutionary science. Possibilities and educated guesses get presented as irrefutable fact.
Since scientists present their conclusions in tentative language (as exemplified above) it would seem to be the fault of mainstream society for reading too much into scientific papers.

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Message 22 of 43 (504231)
03-25-2009 12:18 PM


Von Cullen,
In the opening post you are quoted as saying:
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As a molecular biologist I find it rather comical how the so called evolutionists here accuse creationists of "PRATTS", when you yourselves repeatedly do the exact same thing; only you refuse to recognize that scientific literature consistently refutes 99% of your arguments.
As an example, we could use the thread ERV's: Evidence of Common Ancestory as an example. The thread argues that ERV's are evidence of shared ancestry among primates. Further up in this thread I also linked to a peer reviewed paper that supported this conclusion.
Can you please provide for us the peer reviewed papers that refute this conclusion?

  
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