Uncreated Creator Argument

Hi ICANT, I can see how we could justify the latter - (everything we see has always existed) - using observable evidence and mathematics. I think we could all agree that the universe has always existed in some form; we are simply talking about matter being reduced to sub-atomic scales.It could then be established as fact, for sake of delving deeper into theoretical phisics, that the universe has always existed in some form.The former, however, -(God has always existed) - has no observable evidence to support it, neither for Gods existance nor his eternal characteristics. So how can God is eternal be stated as factual other than by applying faith in the God and his eternal existance?I can see how the universe could be evidenced as being always existant, but how did God (1) Get shown to actually exist, and (2) How does he get the always existant characteristic flung on him?

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Hi Bluejay, Time "begins" when space "begins" to make sense mathematically.To the best of current technology, spacetime makes sense at above Plank scale. Smaller than that and our mathematics that explains the geometry of spacetime stops working properly.So, if I'm correct with the above explanation, time would "begin" to make sense to us at above Plank scale. As I understand it it's the observable universe that is expanding.

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"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky