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Author Topic:   A Designer Consistent with the Physical Evidence
Fallen
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Message 157 of 327 (505129)
04-07-2009 10:36 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by Coyote
04-05-2009 10:31 PM


Re: Life is a masterfully created illusion
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Just a simple question.
In a thread dealing with "Intelligent Design" how is it that you are posting so much about religious belief?
I haven't followed the whole thread, but I pop into a thread in "Science Forums" and in "Intelligent Design" subforum and find nothing but statements regarding religious belief.
Is this all that intelligent design really is? Religion in disguise?
If not, how is it that the proponents of intelligent design always seem to fall back upon religious belief as their support?
Sadly, it would seem that many people are attracted to the label of intelligent design without fully understanding what it means.

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Fallen
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Message 159 of 327 (505269)
04-09-2009 4:15 PM
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04-07-2009 10:47 PM


Re: Life is a masterfully created illusion
Unless it can be shown otherwise, the evidence suggests that intelligent design is an evolution of creation "science" designed to get around the U.S. Supreme Court decision Edwards v. Aguillard.
One of the best examples of this is the book Of Pandas and People and their famous cdesign proponentsists.
Why exactly does this imply that the intelligent design movement as a whole is derived from creationist roots? I can perhaps agree that FTE changed from a creationist organization to advocating ID. However, this hardly implies that the movement as a whole is creationist. Michael Behe was a christian both before and after he rejected evolution. In fact, he currently advocates a set of beliefs that are very anti-creationist. Berlinski was, and still is, an agnostic.
Edited by Fallen, : changing the quote tags

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Fallen
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Message 162 of 327 (505278)
04-09-2009 6:36 PM
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04-09-2009 4:51 PM


Re: Life is a masterfully created illusion
I posted a new topic.

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