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JonF
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Message 7 of 116 (508507)
05-14-2009 12:25 PM


Some more references:
INFLUX OF OTHER ELEMENTS TO THE OCEAN (from Dalrymple, G. B., 1984, 'How Old is the Earth?: A Reply to "Scientific" Creationism,' in Proceedings of the 63rd Annual Meeting of the Pacific Division, American Association for the Advancement of Science, vol. 1, pt. 3, Frank Awbrey and William Thwaites (Eds)).
The Sea's Salt by Glenn Morton.

  
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Message 13 of 116 (508532)
05-14-2009 5:05 PM
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05-14-2009 4:09 PM


So here is a non-technical way you can judge for yourself whether Morton is right or not: find out whether he has published his albite sink theory in a peer-reviewed secular geochemistry journal.
Note that Humphreys' paper is not published in a peer-reviewed technical journal.

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Message 16 of 116 (508550)
05-14-2009 7:16 PM
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05-14-2009 6:38 PM


But then again, his paper doesn't solve the 100 year-old problem, it just brings it back to life ...
Which, were it supportable, would be worthy of publication in a prestigious journal.

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JonF
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Message 19 of 116 (508555)
05-14-2009 8:16 PM


We have plenty of proof (insofar as anything is ever proved in science) of the age of the Earth.
If we don't know all the significant processes of salt addition and removal and their rates, now and in the past, then there's no way that calculating an age that way can be meaningful. It's a non-issue. The whole argument is unsupportable. If Humphreys' had actually come up with something supportable, it would be publishable. As it is he's just repeating senseless bafflegab.
Also, I find it amusing how creationists become the ultimate uniformitarians when it suits them. The list of things that Humphreys assumes never change would be a long one.
(Radiometric dating is OT here, but just to forestall; there are no similarly unsupported assumptions underlying radiometric dating, just premises based on multiple iindependent lines of evidence and incredibly well-established and tested theories.)

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