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bluescat48
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Message 251 of 316 (508488)
05-14-2009 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 248 by Peg
05-14-2009 7:00 AM


Rrhain writes:
This isn't about what the physical evidence shows. This is about what the Bible says and it says that life, the universe, and everything are only about 6000 years old.
Peg writes
No it does not. You say that because you refuse to read the opening words of Genesis in the way Moses read them.
You are missing the point to Rrhain's statement. As for the topic of this thread, It it
The timeline of the Bible
He is simply stating that according to the Bible, life, the earth & universe are about 6000 years old which if one calculates the time listed in the Bible comes out to ~6000 years.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 253 of 316 (508490)
05-14-2009 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 252 by Peg
05-14-2009 8:54 AM


You are not reading what either Rrhain or I am saying. Obviously the Bible does not specifically say the earth etc. is 6000 years old. As stated earlier the timeline, when calculated, comes to about 6000 years.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 265 of 316 (508633)
05-15-2009 8:37 AM
Reply to: Message 264 by Peg
05-15-2009 8:22 AM


Peg writes:
So from this it must be concluded that each creative day could have been several thousands of years in length. This also agrees with the Hebrew word yohm which can be used to represent any length of time...similar to the way 'ages' can be used in english to say 'a very long time'
Regardless as to how long the "6 days" were in actuality, the topic is
The timeline of the Bible
, and when applying the timeline it is as has been stated by Rrhain, Percy, Cedre & Me ~6000 years.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 267 of 316 (508636)
05-15-2009 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 266 by Peg
05-15-2009 8:40 AM


For the timeline it is from "In the Beginning..." The timeline has human history stating 6days from the beginning. Whether it is actual time or not is irrelevant, the timeline is made based on the Biblical writings not on what actually happened no matter how much time elapsed between "In the beginning" and "On the 6th day."
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 275 of 316 (508759)
05-16-2009 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 274 by Peg
05-15-2009 11:35 PM


Peg writes:
There is no basis in Scripture for arbitrarily stating that each creative day was 24 hours long.
And no evidence that it doesn't and what does Moses have to do with Genesis?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 277 of 316 (508794)
05-16-2009 8:28 AM
Reply to: Message 276 by Peg
05-16-2009 5:45 AM


The point of this topic is not whether God inspired the writers or what the meaning of Day is. As I said earlier it is the timeline. What I am saying is there is no evidence to whether the Day is literal or not and that it is not relevant to the topic. You seem to want it both ways, the earth is 6000 years old but yet it is not 6000 years old.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 290 of 316 (508985)
05-17-2009 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 287 by Rrhain
05-17-2009 7:55 PM


Traditionally, the Torah (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy) is said to have been written by Moses. Of course, Deuteronomy contains a description of the funeral of Moses, so clearly somebody else was involved, but that is the teaching.
My statement:
what does Moses have to do with Genesis?
was, in a sense, sarcastic & rhetorical. Of course I know that the first 5 books were attributed to Moses, but I was somewhat taken back that people still believed that.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 291 of 316 (508986)
05-17-2009 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 288 by Rrhain
05-17-2009 8:09 PM


mys statement:
What I am saying is there is no evidence to whether the Day is literal or not
was inferring that it did not matter in the sense of this topic, my point was that there is no physical evidence to what the compiler of Genesis believed. For this topic
The timeline of the Bible
, the timeline would have to be 24 hour days or one would go bananas trying to go through the same thing the the life of those between Adam & Noah.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 295 of 316 (509060)
05-18-2009 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 294 by Peg
05-18-2009 6:03 AM


Peg writes:
how could a day and night be complete without the sun and moon?
to be blunt, it couldn't. It couldn't if one assumes that current accepted idea of what a day is. The point is that the primitve branze age men who came up with these stories had no idea what caused the light on earth, that it was the sun only, that the moon only gave reflected light from the sun. Without the sun there would be 24 hours of darkness each day. Again as I have said a number of times in various topics, one cannot read the Bible through 21st century eyes, one must read it through bronze aged eyes.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 309 of 316 (509697)
05-23-2009 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 308 by kbertsche
05-23-2009 10:39 PM


False. "The beginning" is the absolute beginning of all things. After this we get a sequence of six "days." There is no textual reason for your assumption that the first "day" must start at the absolute beginning of all things.
Then can I assume that before the first day it would be day -1. The first day would have to start at 0.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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