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Author Topic:   Why is the Intelligent Designer so inept?
bluescat48
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Message 132 of 352 (478520)
08-16-2008 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Buzsaw
08-16-2008 2:50 PM


Re: Provoking the designer
Buzsaw says
An already robust host of folks are joining an ongoing protest/rebellion/apostacy already as prophesied for the latter days, including vocal blasphemy and attributing his work of designed creation to natural and random processes. Then there's homosexuality, adultery, fornication, disobedience to parents, evil speaking, murders, thefts, lies, false doctrines, covetousness, love of money, violence etc. These all, like a smoldering volcanoe are leading up to the days of God's wrath, emerging upon the planet as prophesied by OT and NT Biblical prophets.
Considering all of the above has been going on since the beginning of civilization, why should it be any different now? If there was a designer, he, she or it couldn't design a legitmate paper bag.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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bluescat48
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Message 247 of 352 (507324)
05-03-2009 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 245 by Percy
05-03-2009 3:40 PM


Re: The Cambrain and I.D.
The Cambrian Explosion is just the name that was chosen when at first it appeared that evolution was very rapid during this period.
That is the problem with giving a non-science title to a phenomenon. Handles such as Explosion, Bang and Drift, though may be understood by the science crowd, seem to give false implications to "Joe Average."

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 249 of 352 (507365)
05-04-2009 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 248 by Blue Jay
05-04-2009 12:38 AM


Re: Phyla and Species
Bluejay writes:
But, the truth is that the zebras of the Cambrian were small, squishy, worm-like proto-fish with very little, if any, skeleton; that the octopus of the Cambrian were shelly snails without differentiated tentacles; and that the mosquitos of the Cambrian were worm-like swimming things without legs, antennae or wings.
One point, if one removes the appendages from the stomate animals (which includes all animal phyla except accoelomortphs, Ctenophores, Cnidarians, Placozans & Poriferans) they are still vermifoid either in the adult stage or, in the case of some such as echinoderms, the larval stage. There are many that do not have any or very limited appendages such as snakes, caecilians, eels, lampreys & hagfish and all of these, I have mentioned in this sentence, are chordates.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 275 of 352 (507697)
05-07-2009 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 274 by traderdrew
05-07-2009 12:29 PM


Re: The Cambrain and I.D.
traderdrew writes:
I believe that there is a lack of transitional types before the Cambrian phylum
What, might I ask, is the Cambrian Phylum?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 299 of 352 (508838)
05-16-2009 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 295 by traderdrew
05-16-2009 12:12 PM


Re: General Reply
traderdrew writes:
We think and perceive the world from our paradigms. Consider for instance a total solar eclipse. Has it ever struck you that this phenomenon suggests design? The moon covers the sun just perfectly from our perspective. The naturalistic paradigm prevents us from seeing the idea that this could be an example of design.
Yes it coves the sun exactly when it is a the right distance from earth but if the eclipse were to occur at apogee there would be a ring of sun around the moon, annular eclipse, total lack of design. If it were designed, I would think the designer would go for perfection, circular, not eliptical orbits.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 311 of 352 (508981)
05-17-2009 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 304 by traderdrew
05-17-2009 12:53 PM


Re: General Reply
traderdrew writes:
The sun is 400 times the Moon's diameter, and 400 times as far away. It is up to you if you want to view this as a coincidence or as a part of a design. This could be part of another topic. Does the arrangement of the solar system suggest design
from your posted URL writes:
A total solar eclipse, in which the Moon is between the Earth and Sun, blocks the bright light from the Sun's photosphere, allowing us to see the faint glow from the corona, the Sun's outer atmosphere.
When the Moon is at apogee, it is 11% farther from Earth than it is at perigee. This is far enough that it cannot entirely block the bright light, so eclipses which occur near apogee are not total.
Bold type added for emphasis
Your statement, quotemined from the article, would only be true if the moon's orbit were circular and at the correct distance. Thus if there is a designer he is inept at least in the creation of the solar system
Edited by bluescat48, : missing [/qs]
Edited by bluescat48, : sp & typo

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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