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So, I guess you would classify the ancient Stoics as "creationist lite" for arguing that nature indicates an intelligent designer?
Don't you think it is kind of weird that you are going back over 2000 years to find an example to attempt to generate a controversy. The Stoics were no different then most people in that time period. Practically everyone believed in the supernatural of one sort or the other.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but science has come a long way since the first century BCE. I guess I do not understand why you bring up Stoicism and Cicero. Why should his believing in a creator matter to anything?
You might look more into what Cicero believed.
Here are a couple points from
The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy
Stoicism as Cicero understood it held that the gods existed and loved human beings.
Religion was useful because it helped to control human behavior and could be used as a tool for public policy;
So your point in bringing up Cicero and the Stoics was????
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