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Blue Jay
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Message 83 of 107 (477377)
08-01-2008 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by ThinkGod247
08-01-2008 4:25 AM


Re: Humans scared of Dinosaurs before the flood?
Hi, Think. Welcome to EvC.
There are a lot of people responding to your posts, so I don't want to lay it on too thick. But, the subject of the Flood has been discussed at length on many threads here at EvC. In fact, there's an entire forum for discussing the Flood and other geology topics. Peruse the topics there to get an idea of what sort of angles we'll take in debate against the Flood.
This thread, in particular, gives a lot of logistical and mathematical criticism of the Flood. It would be a good place for you to start to acquaint yourself with the views of scientists on, and the evidence against, the Flood.
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Edited by Bluejay, : Left a sentence hanging.

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Blue Jay
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Message 100 of 107 (510194)
05-28-2009 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by PapaTed71
05-28-2009 4:32 PM


Reptiles
Hi, PapaTed. Welcome to EvC!
For your information, the post you responded to is 7 years old, and the person who posted it hasn't been here in a very long time.
PapaTed71 writes:
But he began to sully the garden of god with blasphemies which many intelligent and open-minded Shristians are willing to beleive that may have been in the propogation of reptilians to the ultimate bengs instead of the soon-to-be free-thinking mammals.
Why do you feel that God hates reptiles? There are 7000 species of "reptiles," and only 5400 species of mammals: He sure made a lot of them for someone who dislikes them.
I happen to think dinosaurs represent a grand and wondrous stage of life on Earth, and certainly do not ascribe their creation to Lucifer.
I think John agreed with me:
John 1:3 writes:
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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PapaTed71 writes:
While it seems very scientifically...
And, as shown by John 1:3, it also doesn't jive well with most people's interpretation of the Bible (certainly not mine, though I'm willing to admit that my ability to interpret scripture is very poor).
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PapaTed71 writes:
Why must you intellectuals wrap your scientifically justified robes around yourselfs and scoff at others?
I took the liberty of adding punctuation and capitalization for you here: I would greatly appreciate it if you did it yourself next time.
Yes, it's sad that many scientists are arrogant, but I think you'll find that arrogance is distributed just as widely among any group of people. Please try not to expect anything great out of us: we're still human, after all. But, that's really the beauty of it, in my mind: science is an amazing work, but it doesn't require particularly amazing people to do it, only people who are willing to do the work required.
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PapaTed71 writes:
I used to think scientists were the kinds of people who had infinite scope and capability of understanding but after interacting with them they are just as their religious counterparts they just have a different box in which they reside...
Again, you think too highly of us: we don't want your praise and your worship.
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PapaTed71 writes:
...[Scientists] just have a different box in which they reside whereas I try to reside in wonderous uneiverse created around us.
So, you feel that it's okay for you to put yourself above us, but not for us to put ourselves above you? I don't think that's very fair of you.
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You might also like to take a look at this thread for a discussion about the word "reptiles," just as some side information.
Edited by Bluejay, : fixed my URL

-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)
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Blue Jay
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Message 102 of 107 (510376)
05-30-2009 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by PapaTed71
05-30-2009 11:02 AM


Re: Reptiles
Hi, Ted.
There's not much I can say about what you've written. It seems just as plausible as any other theological philosophy, I suppose. It's very difficult to debate against somebody's personal religious beliefs, so I'm not even going to try.
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PapaTed71 writes:
...maybe... you... will cast aside ALL pride and do what scientist are supposed to try and see things as objectively as possible.
The rest of what I have to say is off-topic, so if you want to continue discussing it, propose a new thread at the Proposed New Topics forum.
Open-mindedness is important in science, but only to an extent. The simple truth of economy is that we do not have the time, the resources, or the energy to restart ourselves from scratch every time somebody asks a question.
Science simply cannot progress if it is constantly asked to unthink and rethink everything that it has already shown to be reliable. The religious are always apprehensive about the possibility that science will uncautiously accept unreliable information, but these fears are wholly unfounded. Unreliable information will be exposed and weeded out by the normal course of science (this is the prime function of the scientific method, after all), although it may take more time than you want it to.
There is no reason, as yet, to postulate unknown or supernatural forces in the workings of the physical universe. Furthermore, the only way to find out if some phenomenon, e.g. the death of the dinosaurs, happened by some means other than natural, non-directed forces, is to simply exhaust literally all other possibilities, which is a process that science will never accomplish.
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-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)
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