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traste Member (Idle past 5445 days) Posts: 173 Joined: |
wounded king writes: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't think you should, I think you are doing that------------------------------------------------------------------------------- my reply: Frankly Im not performing any experiment.hahahahahaha.You missed. Wounded king writes:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the abiogenetic theory in question was based around life arising in 'sterelized water protected from contamination' then you would have made a cogent point, as none of them are you are making an unsupportable conflation between the form of spontaneous generation Pasteur's experiments addressed and naturalistic theories of origins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My reply; Then according,to abiogenesis where did life come from?. There are many new forms spontaneous genaration in the past and many new forms in the future are yet coming,in other words abiogenesis is just a mask of spontaneous genaration.In fact texbooks discussed that organism react spontaneously,theres no utterance of abiogenesis reaction there. Wounded king writes:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The only basis for this conflation is the semantic overlap where the word abiogenesis has been used both to describe spontaneous generation and modern naturalistic theories of the origin of life. Without making an actual argument showing that these two precepts are identical in more than sharing a name or by showing how Pasteur's experiments have anything to do with modern scientific studies of abiogenesis (in terms of naturalistic theories of life's origins) u are simply making a bald assertion with absolutely no supporting evidenceyo------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My reply; There is no semantic overlaping in my post,the real issue here Wounded king is you and your co supporters of evolution are making bold efforts to separate abiogenesis from spontaneous genaration,due to the reason well known to them and to you.In general what does abiogenesis holds? And in general what does spontaneous genaration holds? Are they not holding that life is came from non life? Therefore,what is the difference.?The technical terms being used,I think. You write (u are simply making a bald assertion with absolutely no supporting evidenceyo) in fairness has science produced intermidiate forms of organism through Darwinian process? As in my part I often present scientific experiment that has been proven but you and your co supporters keep on rejecting due the reason well known to you. wounded writes: I don't think you should, I think you are doing that Frankly Im not performing any experiment.hahahahahaha.You missed.
wounded writes: If the abiogenetic theory in question was based around life arising in 'sterelized water protected from contamination' then you would have made a cogent point, as none of them are you are making an unsupportable conflation between the form of spontaneous generation Pasteur's experiments addressed and naturalistic theories of origins Then according,to abiogenesis where did life come from?. There are many new forms spontaneous genaration in the past and many new forms in the future are yet coming,in other words abiogenesis is just a mask of spontaneous genaration.In fact texbooks discussed that organism react spontaneously,theres no utterance of abiogenesis reaction there.
wounded writes: The only basis for this conflation is the semantic overlap where the word abiogenesis has been used both to describe spontaneous generation and modern naturalistic theories of the origin of life. Without making an actual argument showing that these two precepts are identical in more than sharing a name or by showing how Pasteur's experiments have anything to do with modern scientific studies of abiogenesis (in terms of naturalistic theories of life's origins) u are simply making a bald assertion with absolutely no supporting evidenceyo There is no semantic overlaping in my post,the real issue here Wounded king is you and your co supporters of evolution are making bold efforts to separate abiogenesis from spontaneous genaration,due to the reason well known to them and to you.In general what does abiogenesis holds? And in general what does spontaneous genaration holds? Are they not holding that life is came from non life? Therefore,what is the difference.?The technical terms being used,I think. You write (u are simply making a bald assertion with absolutely no supporting evidenceyo) in fairness has science produced intermidiate forms of organism through Darwinian process? As in my part I often present scientific experiment that has been proven but you and your co supporters keep on rejecting due the reason well known to you. Edited by traste, : wrong spelling Edited by traste, : lacking word Edited by traste, : lacking word Edited by Adminnemooseus, : "Hid" message as originally formatted and replaced said with including [qs] type quote boxes. Use "peek" to see the "before" form and to see the coding method.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3987 Joined: |
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traste Member (Idle past 5445 days) Posts: 173 Joined: |
Chiroptera wrote:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- but the intermediate stages may be hard to classify as either "living" or "non-living----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My reply: Therefore the so called intermidiate forms between fish and amphibians are hard to classify as living things?.hahahaha Edited by traste, : improving texts Edited by traste, : improving texts
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2597 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
traste writes:
That's not what he was saying. Of course those stages were living. But that's not what this thread is about. Therefore the so called intermidiate forms between fish and amphibians are hard to classify as living things?.hahahaha Oh, use the quote features like AdminMoose showed you, please, it makes reading your posts so much easier. I hunt for the truth
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traste Member (Idle past 5445 days) Posts: 173 Joined: |
1.Is there anything else he or she was saying?. Or it was all.
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traste Member (Idle past 5445 days) Posts: 173 Joined: |
It's really boring today I need something laughable,like the reasoning of proponents of evolution.
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4755 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
Ok traste.
You are not posting anything meaningful. You are not paying attention to moderator requests to format your posts in a useful way. You can have 24 hours to think about changing and showing that you are prepared to work at debating in good faith.
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traste Member (Idle past 5445 days) Posts: 173 Joined: |
lyx2no wrote:
---------------------------------------------------------------------I am unable to respond because I am unable or unwilling to put in the effort to determine what "that thing" is. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Forgetful nuts. lyx2no wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, it is. That is why it doesn't work as an analogy to anything anyone is saying. The first life was not a random event. Atoms and molecules won't join up in any ol' fashion as a box of auto parts will. O2 and 2H2s will with almost no encouragement form into 2H2O-------------------------------------------------------------------- Are you serious? So you are now attacking the position of Dawkins?And what do you think tha information is not persuasive to critics of evolution? For convinced Darwinist( like you) that information is enough.You have great faith,are you now one of the bishops of evolution? Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Note: Supensions to lyx2no and traste because the these exchanges.
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lyx2no Member (Idle past 5019 days) Posts: 1277 From: A vast, undifferentiated plane. Joined: |
I have lived that I may someday discover the gene responsible for hemorrhoids just so I could name it "Upyores". This was the thought of a child. I now know it only right and proper that I name it "traste"
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Note: Supensions to lyx2no and traste because the these exchanges. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them. Thomas Jefferson
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traste Member (Idle past 5445 days) Posts: 173 Joined: |
lyx20 writes:
--------------------------------------------------------------------- I have lived that I may someday discover the gene responsible for hemorrhoids just so I could name it "Upyores". This was the thought of a child. I now know it only right and proper that I name it "traste" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You will recieve a nobel prize if you name it after yourself.(the connection is so slow).Back to the original question:Is lyx2o is the origin of the word idiot? My guess is yes. " Only stupid people act like barbarians" Edited by traste, : underlining Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Note: Supensions to lyx2no and traste because the these exchanges.
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traste Member (Idle past 5445 days) Posts: 173 Joined: |
lyx20 post
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them. Ridicule is the first argument of the fool.Just like you. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Note: Supensions to lyx2no and traste because the these exchanges.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
This is a science forum. Assertions should be accompanied with evidence.
Ridicule is the first argument of the fool.Just like you. Please provide evidence that lyx2no is a fool. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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traste Member (Idle past 5445 days) Posts: 173 Joined: |
Because he talk nonsense things.Why not ask, him or her to provide evidence for his assertions? You are higly bias!!!
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Note: Supensions to lyx2no and traste because the these exchanges.
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lyx2no Member (Idle past 5019 days) Posts: 1277 From: A vast, undifferentiated plane. Joined: |
He got you, Theodoric: hemorrhoids are environmental, not genetic, and you never called me on it
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Note: Supensions to lyx2no and traste because the these exchanges. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them. Thomas Jefferson
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Peg Member (Idle past 5232 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
DrAedequate writes: Because it is impossible to miraculously breath life into non-living things, since the necessary condition for life is a set of chemical interactions, not miracle breath. yet that fish would still have all the chemicals needed for life to exist those chemicals, even when they are all together...even when they are in a perfectly formed body with all its necessary parts, do not produce life
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