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PapaTed71
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Message 99 of 107 (510193)
05-28-2009 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by axial soliton
08-29-2002 2:34 PM


Most people of religion feel that modern science is their enemy tryig to discount God, but i feel that both do well to provide evidence of eachother. In pregenesis text relating to the Judeo-Christian God it mentioned Earth as being the garden of God but also as his foot stool. This was before the creation of man mind you. God chose the mightiest of his archangels to watch over his foot stool and tend his garden. This was Lucifer. But he began to sully the garden of god with blasphemy's which many intellegent and open minded christians are willing to beleive that may have been in the propogation of reptilians to the ultimate bengs instead of the soon to be free thinking mammals. Well as has happened many times before god was angered and cast Lucifer out of heaven, back to earth, Then it says God kicked away his foot stool sending it spinning into blackness an void which is where it is found at the beginning of genesis only afew million years later where Lucifer himself appear as a snake only having legs which getcut out from under him by god. While it seems very scientifically flimsy i believe thats perfectly understandable since the people through which these stories were being told had no understanding of science in its modern form but that they can stll get a descent view of the goings of the planet pre humanity.
I do agree that it is sad when ANYONE takes a close minded stand against understanding others why must you intellectuals wrap your scientifically justified robes around yourselfs and scoff at others I used to think scientists were the kinds of peoplewho had infinite scope and capability of understanding but after interacting with them they are just as their religious counterparts they just have a different boxin which they reside where as i try to reside in wonderous uneiverse created around us Whether it was by what some call God or by an Infinite PreBB Existance of energy that Condensed itself to a singularityso as to erupt outward showing the Nothingness with light and instilling in all matter a common functionality of which exixtance it self is based. I have one question for yousir. What is the difference between the two? If you ask me its just who you ask. You should take if you haven;t already some advanced Calculus it really gives you a finite mathematical definition for all the "unseens" of the universe. I think you'll like it and give you more strength behind your arguments. And who knows maybe you'll learn something.
p.s. Please don't take this as an attakck it is merely my expression of ideals created by my mind of the concurent running of my life time. Plus i love stiring the idle precipitate clinging to the bottom of the beaker. hehehe

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PapaTed71
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Message 101 of 107 (510363)
05-30-2009 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by Blue Jay
05-28-2009 5:04 PM


Re: Reptiles
Firstly thank you for replying and i very much appreciate your welcome. Also for informing me of my arguing with a literal wall. I want to make it completely clear that in no way do i think god hates or loves in the sense humnanity brings to mind. WE, humans, have emotion I beleive God in my own understanding(using term extremely lightly if not infact incorrectly but only if i'm incorrect which i can't prove or disprove)I was merely using a biblical stylization so as to reach those rooted entirely in religion iin order to illuminate the merits of science. So why sould i say what I did.
I beleive as i mentioned before that God was and in some sense still is an infinite primordial energy source that was "sarificed" (converted) into what is existance as we know it and that in said energy, which permeates existance because it is its "creator", there lies a funciton (The all encompassing function of reality,purely my own thoughts on the matter but increasingly more plausible with humanities greater understanding of the universe)within which all things must fall.
I was simply proposing that reality was becoming imbalanced in relation to the functions limits and it self corrected (Gods intervention) and by kicking away his footstool the earth was say hit by a massive asteroid during the KT Boundary. And in that light i was simply trying to draw the two seperate conclusions of existance together.
As for Lucifer i simply beleive that is a natural inbound force that works to be the negative side of the necessary negative-positive balance, but in this case the polarity was simply shifted too greatly thus the need for correction. Of course thius argument is more existential than physical due to my lack of subsantil evidence but i beleive that as mans understanding increases we might beable to draw the two together. As for my spelling and punctuation I apologise i ofter make mistakes due to my large and rather clumsy fingers if only my body worked as well as my mind. but alas a balance is formed. HAHA.
As for my "attack" on scientists I do admit it was a very subversive way to gain the trust of religious individuals but you must(not really but it would help) admit many scienist just as many religious officials especially feel there can be no common ground between science and religion but when i see or hear these kinds of people it both saddens me and makes me think back to what a man who was far more intelligent and had a far greater understandig of the basic principles of the universe than any of us once said something about science being blind maybe you know who i reference here[hint crazy awesome hair, five pairs of all the same clothes, and loved struedel(purely speculation but struedel is delicious)]
The last point i wish to make very clear. I AM BETTER THAN NO ONE!!! I was simply statin that i live where we all live i simply try(and fail miserable at times) to be as openminded and objective about my thoughts as possible but unfortunately i'm as human s the rest of you and too get riled up and make a fool of myself. You are completely right i hadn't quite realized the tone that last bit especially took. It sounds extremely self-righteous and i sincerely apologize. Thank you for keeping me grounded in that respect.
Sometimes i get carrid away by my thoughts and with passion comes the lose of objectivity. My main goal however, was to convey this one single idea, in the hope, that maybe those of you who are far better than me in both the scientific and religious worlds will cast aside ALL pride and do what scientist are supposed to try and see things as objectively as possible. Then, MAYBE progression will occour if not through any scientific findings maybe at the very least and understanding and acceptance that seems to hard for so many to grasp.
Again thank you for replying I enjoyed your input very much. (Sorry if there are any errors of syntax in my typing but i tried extra hard to do better this time)
Edited by AdminModulous, : broke a wall of text with some whitespace

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