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Author Topic:   Could life evolve in the vacuum of outer space?
lyx2no
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Message 9 of 29 (512421)
06-17-2009 6:03 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by howdoideletethis
06-17-2009 4:59 PM


Ice Crystals
I see ice crystals. I see ice crystals suddenly appear as the flakes rotate from edge on to face on in the sun light. I see others suddenly brighten as they move out of the shadow of the shuttle. I see the motion of the camera in the jiggles and curves made by the flakes moving in straight lines. I see crystals being hit by exhaust from maneuvering jets.
But like I said, the video isn't important, just food for thought.
But not too much thought as we don't want to take the fun out of it.
But let us suppose for a few minutes that they are not ice crystals. The first thing that comes to mind is that space must be chock full of them. But that is contradicted by the grill of the shuttle not being chock full of them. So maybe there aren't so many of them, but they're drawn to the shuttle like moths to a porch light. But that would mean that they can move of their own volition. As space has no substrate to press against they must move about like little rockets. Setting aside the workings of their little rockets, from whence in the near vacuum of space do they get the matter that they would need to eject from their tiny sphincters? I'd think any kind of matter they'd be able to collect would be better spent on survival. Deep sea creatures don't galavant all over the place to satisfy their interests in bathyscaphes, but sit very patiently waiting for a rabbit to blunder past. And there are a lot more deep sea rabbits to choose from then there are deep space particles to blow out ones a sphincter.
So try not to be too critical guys, I enjoy having only one anus.
If you had 44 of them you could maneuver like the space shuttle.
Edited by lyx2no, : To empower my being.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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lyx2no
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Message 18 of 29 (512488)
06-18-2009 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by howdoideletethis
06-17-2009 9:35 PM


Bad Attitude Control
How about this, someone else use their imagination and
Quickly followed by
And if I had 44 anuses I wouldn't be able to maneuver like the ship because I'd be exposed in space and I would die.
So much for using ones imagination. How do you know what would happen if you had 44 anuses? Have you ever had 44 anuses? 44 anuses might just be the evolutionary jump that mankind is waiting for to get off world and colonize the Universe. But not with your attitude, TMC.
Do you really not have something better to do?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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lyx2no
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Message 27 of 29 (512555)
06-18-2009 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by howdoideletethis
06-18-2009 5:34 PM


Re: Bad Attitude Control
TMC writes:
So try not to be too critical guys, I enjoy having only one anus.
So you come to a debater site and imply that people who are critical of your flights of fancy are anuses.
lyx writes:
If you had 44 of them you could maneuver like the space shuttle.
Which ties in nicely with your space evolution and shuttle film in that its rather silly and the shuttle has 44 control thrusters.
TMC writes:
And if I had 44 anuses I wouldn't be able to maneuver like the ship because I'd be exposed in space and I would die. So ha.
"So ha.", I assumed, showed good humor.
lyx writes:
So much for using ones imagination. How do you know what would happen if you had 44 anuses? Have you ever had 44 anuses? 44 anuses might just be the evolutionary jump that mankind is waiting for to get off world and colonize the Universe. But not with your attitude, TMC.
You ask that we use our imaginations and extend ourselves into your flight of fancy. I did. As silly as my statement sounds it is genuinely less silly then your own, and it is on topic to boot. IF circles had pointy bits THEN armchairs make the best hats. A nonsensical conclusion to a nonsensical proposition cannot be falsified.
TMC writes:
Except for lyx2no, he gets no thanks.
If you weren't wincing at my poking of your sacred cow you might have noticed I made several dozen legitimate points.
lyx writes:
I see ice crystals. I see ice crystals suddenly appear as the flakes rotate from edge on to face on in the sun light. I see others suddenly brighten as they move out of the shadow of the shuttle. I see the motion of the camera in the jiggles and curves made by the flakes moving in straight lines. I see crystals being hit by exhaust from maneuvering jets.
But let us suppose for a few minutes that they are not ice crystals. The first thing that comes to mind is that space must be chock full of them. But that is contradicted by the grill of the shuttle not being chock full of them. So maybe there aren't so many of them, but they're drawn to the shuttle like moths to a porch light. But that would mean that they can move of their own volition. As space has no substrate to press against they must move about like little rockets. Setting aside the workings of their little rockets, from whence in the near vacuum of space do they get the matter that they would need to eject from their tiny sphincters? I'd think any kind of matter they'd be able to collect would be better spent on survival. Deep sea creatures don't galavant all over the place to satisfy their interests in bathyscaphes, but sit very patiently waiting for a rabbit to blunder past. And there are a lot more deep sea rabbits to choose from then there are deep space particles to blow out ones a sphincter.
I suppose I should also have mentioned that I see lighted objects from behind the camera reflected in the porthole through which some of the photos were taken, but that would be too prosaic.
TMC writes:
But like I said, the video isn't important, just food for thought.
lyx writes:
But not too much thought as we don't want to take the fun out of it.
Why don't you just come out and say it. "Hi guy, let's uncritically entertain my flights of fancy. Tell me how awesome the things I think are as I weave a Universe out of whole cloth."
lyx writes:
Do you really not have something better to do?
I nearly panic when I think of the godzillion things I don't know and so desperately want to know, and here comes another thinking, human mind and the only thing it wants is conformation of its party favor natural history.
TMC writes:
Yes, I do have better things to do, seeing as this is only my fourth post, unlike you're 700+ (no telling how many are useless replies).
I can only take credit for the last 300 or so. I'm sure there may be a few worthless ones in there that fell to my smarty-pants inclinations. But you failed to note the wisdom I imparted in this thread seeing instead my dagger in the side of your cow. Plus, school's out for summer, my stupid, thieving, pseudo-gangsta', cousin is wrecking havoc on the whole family meaning my mum's in Baltamore helping her sister-in-law hold it together, so I've had near zero parental supervision since Easter coming out of an environment where my mum used to read and criticize every word I'd post before I went to bed, and so if I used a bit of my new found liberties to bust one of your nuts I consider it a learning experience in social dominance. (But I still haven't drawn up the courage to use swear words, yet.)
However, I'm here more to learn then I am to teach, so I listen (lurk) a lot. I fully agree that two of the things I need to learn are diplomacy and suffering fools. Like, that wasn't one of my finer moments, was it?
I've even learned something from you. 44 attitude control thrusters is not enough to make one able to function in unaccustomed realms. A thicker skin is a must.
Edited by lyx2no, : Grammar.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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lyx2no
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Message 28 of 29 (512556)
06-18-2009 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by RAZD
06-18-2009 6:38 PM


Re: It seems you don't like comments that contradict your pet belief ...
Actually lyx2no is a rare combination of two people, with lyx2no2 inheriting the name (and a number of posts) from an uncle after the uncle died. Fascinatingly this uncle did a pretty good job of educating the new lyx2no on how to make cogent posts, and how to back them up with substantiating evidence, rather than just off the cuff comments.
Thank you, RAZD, but I sorta, gotta admit TMC has more of a point then I'd admit to him. Especially lately.
AbE: And you made me cry.
Edited by lyx2no, : No reason given.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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