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Author Topic:   Does intelligent design have creationist roots?
Teapots&unicorns
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Message 140 of 151 (513332)
06-27-2009 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by Percy
06-09-2009 2:25 PM


Re: A Former Creationist Reveals All
Hi all.
As stated in an earlier post, creationists/IDers use many of the same ideas such as attacking evolution, the "1 or the other" position, and the complete lack of any research aside from saying "it's too hard! [whine] Oh well, God/ID didit.
I challenge anyone to come up with a reason that creationism is different than ID. (and no, the cut and paste is not a valid argument)

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Teapots&unicorns
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Message 142 of 151 (513527)
06-29-2009 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by onifre
06-29-2009 1:33 PM


Re: A Former Creationist Reveals All
I challenge anyone to come up with a reason that creationism is different than ID. (and no, the cut and paste is not a valid argument)
I would say that YECreationism and ID is completely different.
At least ID agrees with most asspects of the theory of evolution; they don't discard the theory completely, they only take issue with a few things. Mostly, irreducible complexity, etc.
Congratulations, Oni! You win the $10 million!
But seriously, now, I was talking about the fact that evolution can be traced back to a single common ancestor- I'm not talking about how it got there, this is evolution, not abiogenesis- and that both ID and creationism assume that life had to come from somewhere (i.e God/Designer). But you are right, YECreationism can be separated by ID by that fact. Thank you.
Where as a YECreationist disagrees with the theory completely. He/she believes the earth is more or less 10,000 years old and God made everything as is.
To me this seems like a huge difference.
Yes, you are right, but I was also including OECreationists. I forgot about the "sects" of creationism. My bad.

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