Admoose, I think you will find that messy posted an average of two messages for each post by other participants on the "Giants" thread. I think your casting of aspertions on crashfrog is unwarranted.
There seemed to be some progress towards teaching messy a bit of the scientific method and to imbue him (?) with some skepticism towards sources.
And the participants seem to be enjoying themselves. Isn't that as important as staying on topic?
I think management needs to lay a very light hand on discussions.