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A_Christian
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Message 31 of 60 (51119)
08-19-2003 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by AdminBrian
08-19-2003 11:55 AM


I really don't see that any of the assertions being made here are
supported in the least. I also see emotions showing on every
post I've read above. Maybe you need to stop playing a god and
be honest about your own intent. Would you prefer Bible quotes?
Proverbs 20:6
Most men will proclaim everyone his own goodness: but a faithful
man who can find?

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crashfrog
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Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 32 of 60 (51122)
08-19-2003 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by A_Christian
08-19-2003 1:04 PM


but a faithful
man who can find?
Yo!

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Dan Carroll
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Message 33 of 60 (51123)
08-19-2003 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by A_Christian
08-19-2003 1:04 PM


A Christian:
Should I just assume you won't be answering my questions in message 20/22?

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AdminBrian
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Message 34 of 60 (51126)
08-19-2003 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by A_Christian
08-19-2003 1:04 PM


HI A_Christian,
Would you prefer Bible quotes?
I would have been happy to accept quotes from anywhere that to support your assertion that evolutionists are not interested in truth.
What unsupported assertions are you refering to that occured in response to your accusation against evolutionists?
Maybe you need to stop playing a god and be honest about your own intent
I dont see how it is possible for me to play a god, I was simply pointing out that your post insulted every evolutionist member of the forum and that this doesn't make for good debate, as evidenced by the responses.
AdminBrian

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A_Christian
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Message 35 of 60 (51141)
08-19-2003 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by AdminBrian
08-19-2003 1:17 PM


Sir, evolution is an insult to me, and to all who accept GOD at HIS
Word.
II Peter 3:3-7
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers,
walking after their own lusts, and saying, "Where is the promise of
his coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue
as from the beginning of the creation."
For this they WILLINGLY are IGNORANT of, that by the WORD of GOD the
heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water:
Whereby the world that WAS, being overflowed with water, perished:
but the heavens and the earth, which are NOW, by the same WORD are
kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and
perdition of ungodly men.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 36 of 60 (51145)
08-19-2003 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by A_Christian
08-19-2003 1:57 PM


Well, at least now you've provided evidence that within the past 2000 years, a guy wrote some stuff down in a book.
I'm just gonna assume you don't have an answer for those questions.

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mark24
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Posts: 3857
From: UK
Joined: 12-01-2001


Message 37 of 60 (51150)
08-19-2003 2:35 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by A_Christian
08-19-2003 1:57 PM


Whos this God bloke, & how can I tell his word from that of men who haven't a clue? You seem awfully sure you can recognise one from the other.
Mark

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Brian
Member (Idle past 4980 days)
Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 38 of 60 (51151)
08-19-2003 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by A_Christian
08-19-2003 1:57 PM


Hi AC,
Sir, evolution is an insult to me, and to all who accept GOD at HIS Word.
Untrue, there are many Chrsitians who accept evolution, the leader of the largets group of Chrsitan in the world accepts evolution as a brute fact.
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
This is simply a self-fulfilling prophecy,the authors of the Bible may have been fairly unintelligent by our standards but they weren't stupid enough to think that their propaganda would be believed forever, they knew that the time would come when everyone would see through their tales.
"Where is the promise of his coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as from the beginning of the creation.
So where has he got to, things are still continuing as they always have, and no sign of the Jesus character? It appears that DC85 is correct, God is a deadbeat dad who shirks his responsibilities and leaves the State to look after his creations.
For this they WILLINGLY are IGNORANT of, that by the WORD of GOD the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water:
The heavens were old, wow how would we ever have known that without the Bible?
But, seriously, don't you see how silly this quote is? 'The Earth standing out of the water?', I was under the impression that the earth contain the water!
I have a feeling that you could contribute something to a debate if you weren't preoccupied with quoting the Bible, try some independant thinking, you might enjoy it.

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A_Christian
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Message 39 of 60 (51168)
08-19-2003 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Brian
08-19-2003 2:39 PM


Brian:
The ONLY thing we have is GOD's Word. If there are "Christians"
out there who do not wish to accept GOD's Word then they may
likely "feel" that there is nothing wrong with homosexual behavior,
that abortion is OK, that Jesus was just a good person, that the FLOOD
is an peculiar tale, that GOD couldn't create anything from nothing, and that one interpretation of Scripture is just as valid as any
other.
Psalm 104:4-9 & 29-32
Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: laid
the foundations of the earth, it should not be moved forever.
Thou coveredst it with the deep as a garment: the waters stood above
the mountains. At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thunder they
hasted away.
The mountains ascend, the valleys descend unto the place which thou
hast founded them. Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over;
that they turn not again to cover the earth.
Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled; thou takest away their
breath, they die, and return to dust. Thou sendest forth thy spirit,
they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.
The glory of the LORD shall endure for ever; the LORD shall rejoice
in his works. He looketh on the earth, and it trembleth: he
toucheth the hills, and they smoke.

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Brian
Member (Idle past 4980 days)
Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 40 of 60 (51173)
08-19-2003 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by A_Christian
08-19-2003 4:39 PM


Hi AC,
one interpretation of Scripture is just as valid as any
other.
Herein lies the problem, how do we know which interpretation of scripture is the correct one. There are as many interpretations of the Bible as there are stars in the sky, and many claim to be arrived at directly through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
But if someone says that they are a Christian who believes in evolution, then who are we to say they arent?
Brian.

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DC85
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Posts: 876
From: Richmond, Virginia USA
Joined: 05-06-2003


Message 41 of 60 (51217)
08-19-2003 7:23 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by crashfrog
08-19-2003 2:36 AM


quote:
No offense, and I'm not trying to evangelize, but you may find atheism a more peaceful alternative than this raging anger against god.
None taken. I am Agnostic my views are More Atheist then Agnostic Most times. I am Agnostic Because I like to Keep it Open to the fact that a Higher Power may exist though I HIGHLY doubt it. my Speech of an Evil God was if the God of the Bible was real
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doctrbill
Member (Idle past 2785 days)
Posts: 1174
From: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Joined: 01-08-2001


Message 42 of 60 (51291)
08-19-2003 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by A_Christian
08-19-2003 1:57 PM


A_Christian writes:
... the earth standing out of the water:
Do you bother to read what you quote? 2 Peter 3:5
Don't you think it would be good to quote fully?
Would you like to explain what Peter was talking about and how your quote relates to the Earth standing out of the water in Genesis chapter One?
Would you like to share with these good folk what God called the Dry Land?
Cheap. Cheap tactics. Put some real effort into into it why don't you?
Would you like to brandish the Sword of the Lord? Better sharpen it.
Wanna fry evolutionists with hell fire? Better stay cool.
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Doesn't anyone graduate Sunday School?
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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6496 days)
Posts: 3085
From: Munich, Germany
Joined: 08-09-2002


Message 43 of 60 (51315)
08-20-2003 4:10 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by A_Christian
08-19-2003 4:39 PM


quote:
The ONLY thing we have is GOD's Word.
Have no evidence that there is a god(s) or that the bible is anything but a compilation by multiple authors.
quote:
If there are "Christians"
out there who do not wish to accept GOD's Word
If there are Christians who think they know better than all other Christians they should be ashamed of their arrogance...
quote:
then they may
likely "feel" that there is nothing wrong with homosexual behavior
You seem very conflicted about homosexuals...you sure you are not gay yourself?
quote:
that abortion is OK
...nobody thinks abortion is a great thing..but certainly better than ruining the life of the living
quote:
, that Jesus was just a good person,
I am not convinced that Jesus was either a good person or that he even existed in the first place and is not a construction like the next fairytale you mention here...
quote:
that the FLOOD
is an peculiar tale,
Considering there is not a shred of evidence for the biblical flood and everything from peleontology to genetics demonstrates it is a cute myth it would be nice if people would regain their sanity and see the whole myth as a cute metaphor..
quote:
that GOD couldn't create anything from nothing,
..yeah..we are all waiting for that grand creation ex nihilo experiment result...the test tube has been standing in the lab open for years and I have not seen the Maxim model I prayed for pop out yet
quote:
and that one interpretation of Scripture is just as valid as any
other.
Ok..and how do you support the validity of one over the other when they are not based on any evidence to begin with...for that matter why not the Hindu god(s) as the real dieties since they have even older texts and their god(s) are way cooler looking...

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A_Christian
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Message 44 of 60 (51394)
08-20-2003 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Mammuthus
08-20-2003 4:10 AM


Mammuthus:
Your assertion that there is no evidence for the FLOOD, is as
valid as the evolutionist's assertion that given enough time
and the "right" conditions, life will spring from inamimate objects.
And yes, had I not had a proper upbringing bound in a strong
Christian faith, I might have been taken in by the homosexual
lie. Thanks be to GOD, I am a very happily married man with a
child of my own.

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Brian
Member (Idle past 4980 days)
Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 45 of 60 (51408)
08-20-2003 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by A_Christian
08-20-2003 2:25 PM


Hi,
Just an observation, but hypothetically speaking, what would you do if your child came to you when they had reached a certain age an told you that he/she was gay?
Brian.
PS. Hypothetically speaking, I am not trying to offend you.

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