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Message 37 of 426 (514643)
07-09-2009 8:24 PM


Thanks for the Bug Reports and Feedback
I'm not going to be able to fix the bugs tonight. I'll start in on them early tomorrow morning, and please continue reporting any new problems you find. I apologize for not wringing these problems out over at the test board, but hopefully they're not showstoppers.

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Message 40 of 426 (514655)
07-10-2009 8:00 AM
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Re: Thanks for the Bug Reports and Feedback
There was an incorrect database entry. I'll have to keep my eye on this one. Anyone who notices when the "Last Reply" column is in error, please post a note here. I don't have enough info to find the bug yet, but it should become more clear after I see this a couple more times.

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Message 41 of 426 (514656)
07-10-2009 8:02 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Blue Jay
07-10-2009 7:42 AM


Re: Thread Link Bug
This problem occurs only 11,398 times in the database.
It's a database translation problem and easy to fix, I should be able to get this done this morning.

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Message 43 of 426 (514697)
07-11-2009 7:30 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Peg
07-11-2009 6:38 AM


Re: problems with reply's
Hi Peg,
Thank you for reporting this, this looks like very valuable information. I'm hoping it's the missing piece of the puzzle to the problem that Huntard reported in Message 38.
Unfortunately it looks like a key piece of information might be missing. After the "MessageText=" portion there should have been a "WordList=" portion, and it's not there. Can you get back to that page and see if you can find that portion? Or can you make it happen again. Then post that information here. It's not critical, but it could be very helpful. Thanks very much for your help!
Everyone: If you see a "Query error" message, please report it here and include a cut-n-paste of both the "Query error" and the "Query string" that appears after it. Thanks!

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Message 44 of 426 (514698)
07-11-2009 7:31 AM
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07-10-2009 7:42 AM


Re: Thread Link Bug
Forget to mention yesterday, this problem is fixed. Thanks for reporting it!

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Message 45 of 426 (514700)
07-11-2009 7:49 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Peg
07-11-2009 6:38 AM


Re: problems with reply's
Hi Peg,
I think it may have been something in the text of your message that I'm not handling properly that is causing the problem. Can you remember anything that isn't that common that it might have had? Maybe a special character? Did you cut-n-paste text from somewhere else that might have had special characters or symbols? If you have still have the text of your message or can reconstruct it, please email it to Admin (admin@evcforum.net). Thanks!
Edited by Admin, : Clarification.

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Message 47 of 426 (514718)
07-11-2009 1:24 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Bailey
07-11-2009 9:14 AM


Re: Query error (SQL syntax)
Thanks for this. I can't tell if this is another another piece of the puzzle emerging, or a new problem. It looks like you might have provided enough information for me to reproduce this problem. I'm breaking for lunch now but will come back to this in an hour or so and see what I can figure out
About images and do I need help, the answer is yes, I sure do! Your email isn't public but as Admin I can see it anyway. Is it okay if I send you an email? Or do you use Skype, their chat capability would be better.

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Message 49 of 426 (514721)
07-11-2009 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Asgara
07-11-2009 2:45 PM


Re: Last Reply error again
Huntard, Bailey, Asgara, Everyone,
There was a bug affecting signatures that included single quotes somewhere in the text. Not only would such messages fail to post, but it would cause the Last Reply field to be improperly updated when the very next message was posted.
I hope I have fixed this problem, but please post here if you see the problem again, and thanks for your help. I couldn't have identified the cause of the problem without you.

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Message 51 of 426 (514742)
07-11-2009 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Adminnemooseus
07-11-2009 6:26 PM


Re: Signature problem - Merged member - Also, link to message problem
Hi Moose!
About the signature, I edited your signature to use the new dBCodes. You can switch it back to user the URL dBCode, but now things point to the right places. I couldn't find the thread for reporting technical problems.
I'll look into the merge problem. Thanks for finding this, that code is complex.
About old links that reference the old thread numbers, they'll no longer work because all the thread ID numbers changed. Used to be that thread IDs were only unique within a forum, now they're unique across the whole board.
I've been remiss in not mentioning the new dBCodes: MID, TID, and FID. They take arguments of the message, thread or forum ID, e.g., [MID=51473] would give you Message 22. The old dBCodes will still work, but you have to use the new thread IDs. All URLs in old messages that used the old approach (e.g., ending with, for example, f=7&t=156&m=4) were updated automatically during the installation, except apparently not in signatures, an oversight.
I'm sorry I couldn't figure out a way to have the old "link to message" style work.
Edited by Admin, : Grammar.

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Message 53 of 426 (514745)
07-11-2009 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Taz
07-11-2009 8:03 PM


Taz writes:
Look at the image below. I think it's pretty self explanatory.
Well, yeah, it sure is. You're using IE! What do you expect!
Sorry, long day.
There is so much I haven't had time to explain, and I apologize for that. I'll explain this one now.
The "Replies" column now indicates that there is at least one response to one of your messages in the thread that you haven't yet replied to.
It used to only indicate if there was a response to your last message. There were a lot of requests to improve this because sometimes people would respond to some other message than your last one.
If you look through all your messages in that thread (Click on the "Taz Posts Only" link to make this easy) you'll find that at least one of your messages has "no" listed under the "You have responded?" column of the "Replies to this message" list. If you click on the "no" it will change to "noted". Once all the messages you haven't responded to are listed as "noted" then the "Yes" under the "Replies" column of the "All Topic" page will go away.
The intention is to give you a button you can click to mark all messages in a thread as responded to, but I haven't had time to implement it yet.

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Message 56 of 426 (514758)
07-12-2009 5:18 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Peg
07-12-2009 2:04 AM


Re: problems with reply's
Hi Peg,
I'm pretty sure it was a bug, and thank you very much for reporting the problem. I couldn't be sure if your problem was caused by the same bug that was causing a couple similar problems, but if the problem is really fixed now then it sounds like it was. I'm a lone developer with more software than I can test by myself, and it's a really big help when people are willing to report problems.

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Message 61 of 426 (514829)
07-13-2009 8:01 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Blue Jay
07-13-2009 12:48 AM


Re: HTML Characters
Hi Bluejay, and everyone else who noticed the funny character problem:
This is an easy problem to fix, but I need a table of what corresponds to what. For example, ’ seems to be the single quote, but what are the rest? If someone can give me a complete or at least fairly complete table I'll make the funny characters go away.

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Message 66 of 426 (515449)
07-18-2009 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Taz
07-17-2009 12:16 PM


Hi Taz,
Feedback is appreciated, so please keep it coming. Feedback about board behavior to threads like this is valuable for me because I'm trying to create the best board software out there, and it helps you too, because I will change features that aren't working out.
So don't worry too much, it's going to get better. As I've mentioned before, I was forced to release the new software early because the number of messages, over a half million, was becoming unwieldy. Some features are not yet in their final form, and the way indications of a reply work is one of those features.
In the case of the "Yes" reply indicator, I'm planning to turn this into two links:
  • The "Yes" will become a link you can click on to turn it into "No". Clicking on it will mark all replies to your messages that you haven't responded to to "noted". Clicking on "No" will change the "noted" back to "no".
  • A new link, probably just another blue arrow for now since I don't yet have icon help, will take you to the oldest message that you haven't responded to.
In the meantime, you can still click on the "Taz posts only" link and then quickly go through your messages changing all the "no" indicators to "noted".
To me this seems like one of those features where developers have to try out several variations before finding the right one, and it is also possible that the feature may have to be discarded. Where I work we have a special observation room with one way glass so we can observe users of various levels of expertise interacting with our software. Unfortunately, EvC Forum doesn't have these kinds of resources.
The page links could be making a comeback soon, but I have some questions for people. Is it just a link to the top of the last page people want, and they don't need a link to all the other pages? Or do people want the complete list of page links? Or would a "Jump to page" link be okay?
In the meantime, there's still the "last messaage" link, which although it takes you to the bottom of the last page instead of the top, at least you're on the right page and can scroll up.

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Message 68 of 426 (515501)
07-18-2009 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by RAZD
07-13-2009 10:23 PM


Re: links to old threads
The old-style links threads should now work. This fix only covers old-style links that you've bookmarked. Please let me know if you have any problems.
The old-style links in messages were not modified properly during the update, and these still do not work. I am fixing this now and will let you know when I am done.

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Message 70 of 426 (515523)
07-18-2009 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Adminnemooseus
07-11-2009 6:26 PM


Re: Signature problem - Merged member - Also, link to message problem
Hi Moose,
Most broken message links in old messages should now be fixed. There are still some broken links left, but I think I've fixed all the most important types. Please let me know if you find any more broken link types that you think should be fixed.

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