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Author Topic:   Irreducible Complexity, Information Loss and Barry Hall's experiments
Peepul
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Message 64 of 136 (515064)
07-15-2009 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by RAZD
07-14-2009 10:52 PM


Re: Logic and reality please.
Let me say that again: an IC system has been observed to evolve, ergo it is false to say that an IC system cannot arise by evolution.
Hang on RAZD. If a system can be shown to have evolved by a series of step changes (which is what the above demonstrates) then by definition it is NOT IC. I think what has been demonstrated here is that a system alleged to be IC is not in fact IC.
Of course, the IC concept is completely valueless. For an individual system alleged to be IC, we can never tell which of these statements is true :-
- there is no way it could have arisen through evolution
- our imagination cannot come up with a way in which it could have arisen through evolution.
Therefore we can never truly demonstrate that a system is IC, and so the concept is useless.
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Peepul
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Message 83 of 136 (515226)
07-16-2009 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by RAZD
07-15-2009 5:55 PM


Re: Logic and reality please.
Thanks for the clarification, RAZD, appreciated.

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