Pick and Choose Fundamentalism

It is picking and choosing because they are willing to declare the whole city as sinful but then ignore the fact that logically speaking infants and toddlers can't sin.It's picking the macro level and ignoring the micro level. In other words, even within a specific verse they pick and choose which part of the verse they want to praise and which part they want to ignore. And I'm not demanding that they tell me each specific sin of each person. All I'm asking is if they could give any possible sin a toddler or infant could commit. Remember that I am assuming the city of Jericho was indeed a sinful city like the fundies proclaim. I am assuming that the adults were raping and murdering each other. What actions could the infants and toddlers have done to deserve death? But Ringo, the fundies never say they don't know what sins the toddlers and infants could have committed to deserve death. They just ignore this question.They are very willing to tell us that the people of Jericho was sinful and had 40 years to repent. Even our very own liberal christian Phat said this. But when I asked what possible sins the toddlers and infants could have committed, they just pretend like they never heard or saw the question. How is this not picking and choosing which part of the story/event to address and which part to ignore? Here is the verse about Jericho again.

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Joshua 6:21 They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it”men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.

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Ok, let's discuss this very simple verse. The fundies are very willing to tell us that the people were sinners and therefore deserved to be slaughtered. They are very willing to tell us some of the possible mortal sins the adults were commiting. But when asked for some of the possible mortal sins the children were commiting, they just ignore us. How is this not picking and choosing which part of this very simple sentence to preach and which part to ignore?Ringo, here is a challenge for you. Find me a fundy who is willing to answer the question in a straight forward manner and I'll give you this one. I don't care if he tells me the toddlers were raping the infants. Just find one that is willing to say something in a straight foward manner about this issue. If not, it's picking and choosing fundamentalism.

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First of all, what we are discussing is deemed off-topic. However, since this thread has been dead for a while, I doubt anyone would care if I carry this conversation forward a little bit. If this is true, are you saying that the current generation of Germans are also directly responsible for the Holocaust? What about the current generation of Christians in regard to the inquisition? Am I directly responsible for the killings of Native Americans and therefore should be put to death?I'm just trying to understand your mentality on this point.

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Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

Ok. Thanks for the honest answer. Where do you live? I'm asking so I could go there and hug and kiss you and your family. Edited by AdminPhat, : [strange humor]Where do you live? I'm asking so I could go there and slaughter you and your family. [/strange humor] Edited by Taz, : Upon the Nose's request.

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Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

Do other christians on here believe what imageinvisible just said? Or is he a fluke?Hint: Silence from you I will automatically assume that you support his assertion.

So, in other words, you're saying that god was just to have the israelites murder every man, woman, child, and unborn babe in the lands they conquered.Good job in making your god look like a homicidal maniac.

What could those toddlers have done to have them deemed as criminals?

Haha, only a christian would try to rationalize murdering toddlers and babies and make it sound likea just thing.Do me a favor and don't ever move to my neighborhood. I got nephews and nieces coming over like every other day.

She scares the shit out of me. I'm a civil servant. In my profession, I do come across what we would classify as sociopaths. Unlike the stigma that is associated with this word, most sociopaths actually live normal lives like the rest of us. What makes them unique is that they are unable to tell the difference between right and wrong. There is something wrong with their minds that renders them incapable of understanding why something is right and why something is wrong.Some scientists have done studies on these individuals and have found a pattern among them. Their frontal lobe, the area of the brain responsible for impulse control, doesn't seem to function as much as the frontal lobe of a normal person. The impulse control is usually referred to as a person's conscience.Most sociopaths are able to live among us without a problem because they've learned to imitate what society expects of them. In other words, they pretend their way through life. Every once in a while, though, there are a few that just don't make it and end up being murderers and rapists. They become high profile.People like peg scares the hell out of me because they display a total lack of sense of right and wrong. They simply can't understand why an action like hacking a child to death is wrong. Sure, they'll continue to live their lives not hacking children to death because they know that's what society expects of them. But one of these days...The scary thing in all of these is these have children and teach their children their screwed up worldview. Some of them even become religious leaders.Added by edit.I think the most famous case in the 20th century of these special individuals able to take over a country and wreaked havoc upon the world was Nazi Germany. It was an unempathetic nation lead by a hand full of sociopaths who couldn't understand why it was wrong to kill innocent people. Peg would fit quite nicely into their society.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

I didn't make any prediction. I don't know anything about peg personally. All I have to go on are the things that she had said. And so far, she has given me every reason to believe she is incapable of understanding the difference between what's right and what's wrong.There are more functioning sociopaths out there than you think. They occupy every part of society. Not intending to sound prejudicial to these people, but it's our responsibility as people who are capable of understanding what's right and wrong to identify the ones who are incapable of understanding what's right and wrong to prevent another holocaust.I may sound too harsh or too doomsday-like. But the last time we ignored and dismissed people like peg, tens of millions of people died horrible deaths as a result. Whole families were systematically gassed to death because a group of people decided they had some kind of divine mandate to exterminate an entire race of people. Gee, sound familiar?If you're not convinced, look at her posts again. Now, imagine her teaching her sociopathic standards to her children. Imagine them growing up believing it's ok to exterminate entire civilizations to take their land. Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Hahahaha.I remember one of my philosophy professors asked a hard core christian if god could stomp his own toe. The christian thought about it for a moment and said he didn't think god would do that. People were like "that's not the question!" Good luck getting a straight answer out of peg on this one.This is one of the reasons why I stopped being a christian. You really have to lie to maintain your faith. Dodging a question is lying. Answering the wrong question is lying. And certainly, pretending not to understand your question is lying. They like to preach the rest of us morals and all of that, but they have no problem lying.

Ok, we'll steal a chapter from peg's book and let's not only kill the baby but also kill those who loved the baby as well as the civil servants that would haev to deal with the remains.

DA, you still doubt peg is a sociopath? The more posts she makes, the more convinced I am that she has no conscience and will readily commit murder, rape, genocide, and other horrendous crimes without remorse simply because she is incapable of telling the difference between right and wrong.

For those of us who actually remember when hillbilly first showed up, it's kinda hard to take him seriously. His first 50 posts were nothing more than smart-ass comments. Only when threatened with suspension did he start pretending to debate.I'm just sayin' so you don't have to spend too much energy wondering why his philosophy don't make any sense. He just makes them up as he goes along.

It's part of the thank-god-for-dead-soldiers philosophy that's been going around.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

DevilsAdvocate, I'm surprised you still got some hair on your head (I'm assuming you hadn't already pulled them all out).I'm a social servant. I read a lot of police reports. One came to mind. It went something like this: The offender was escorted out of his vehicle and placed onto the ground. The offender broke his wrist and nose on his way down.Well, I also looked at the video. WOW, I thought to myself. They yanked this drunk out of his car and slammed him onto the ground, breaking his nose and wrist in the process.I almost lost my hair trying to argue with those officers that while technically they were correct in their report, they failed to paint an accurate picture of what happened.The same thing is happening here in this very thread with Peg! The fathers, brothers, sisters, and mothers of these young women and girls were slaughtered by the Israelites. The Israelites then were commanded to carry off these virgin women and girls to make wives out of them.Any clear thinking mind would KNOW these were acts of forceful marriages. What happens after forceful marriage? It's FORCEFUL SEX. What's another word for FORCEFUL SEX? RAPE!Somehow, Peg keeps insisting that carrying these young women and girls off to make wives out of them weren't rape. But THERE'S ONLY ONE LOGICAL CONCLUSION. I mean, what were the Israelite men going to do? Put these virgins on a pedestal and never touched them again?GOOD GOD!Added by edit.Am I the only one that feels like the twightlight zone featuring Peg?Edited by Taz, : No reason given.