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cavediver
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Message 136 of 1725 (517669)
08-02-2009 4:12 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by DevilsAdvocate
08-02-2009 12:00 AM


Re: I believe Smooth Operator is a Troll
Anyone want to venture a guess?
I think his current expletive driven meltdown is a sign that he is not.
If you want to have fun, read my post on the Midnight Sun, and hit him with it repeatedly. If this is the only observation we mention, he will run screaming

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Message 137 of 1725 (517673)
08-02-2009 4:24 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by cavediver
08-02-2009 4:12 AM


My impression is that there is a lot of troll like activity in the "Peanut Gallery"
The 11th forum commandment - "Thou shall not annoy A Moose."
A Moose

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Percy
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Message 138 of 1725 (517702)
08-02-2009 8:09 AM
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08-02-2009 4:12 AM


Re: I believe Smooth Operator is a Troll
I'm disappointed. I've been in a discussion with SO over at What is an ID proponent's basis of comparison? (edited), and I thought SO was a fairly sophisticated IDist given how much he uses references and excerpts. He's a little short on the details, but then they all are.
But now you mention his behavior over at the Relativity is wrong... thread, and looking it over now it seems possible that he's just a nut who uses references and excerpts as props.
--Percy

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Straggler
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Message 139 of 1725 (517711)
08-02-2009 9:33 AM
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08-02-2009 8:09 AM


Re: I believe Smooth Operator is a Troll
I don't think he is a "troll" as such. I think he genuinely believes his position in both threads to be both evidenced and correct. He may well be a nutter. But I don't, at this stage, doubt the genuineness of his nuttiness.
The question remains as to whether he can be convinced that he might be wrong. Rather than just abuse his stupidity let's find out how glued to his position in the face of contradictory evidence he really is.

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Message 140 of 1725 (517717)
08-02-2009 10:43 AM
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08-02-2009 9:33 AM


Re: I believe Smooth Operator is a Troll
The question remains as to whether he can be convinced that he might be wrong. Rather than just abuse his stupidity let's find out how glued to his position in the face of contradictory evidence he really is.
Yeah...it would be nice to think there is some way we havent found yet that would convince him he might be wrong....but
it's not gonna happen.
INTERCEPTION! the children! can we get in the way of these forlorn broken people to prevent their stupidity from being passed on....
ah...the hutzpah to take the attitude that we might know better.
how can we show the error of their ways?

- xongsmith

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Straggler
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Message 141 of 1725 (517733)
08-02-2009 11:24 AM
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08-02-2009 10:43 AM


WTF?
You seem to be alluding to something but I have no idea what it is.............?

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rueh
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Message 142 of 1725 (517896)
08-03-2009 7:17 AM


SO what's wrong with the Sun
Cavediver writes:
It's declarations like this that make you think you're debating with an uninformed 4-year old. It just staggers belief.
Uninformed definatly. I hoped that by taking the most obvious errors and pointing them out. It would give SO pause enough to consider educating himself from adequate sources. I doubt that this will be the case, since in his reply to me, he links a source about Earth's orbit around the Sun, in defense of the Sun orbiting the Earth. The contradiction is mind boggling indeed.
ABE: Sorry, upon closer inspection, it does show the Sun orbiting the Earth. The relative sizes on the diagram threw me off.
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'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat'
The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ
The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX

onifre
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Message 143 of 1725 (518073)
08-03-2009 11:01 PM


ICANT in the KCA thread
While I'm half enjoying my conversation with ICANT at the KCA thread, it's getting a bit frustrating repeating myself.
This reminds me of a funny episode from Lucky Louis, enjoy. This is a good explanation for Smooth Operator, too.
- Oni
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Straggler
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Message 144 of 1725 (518130)
08-04-2009 7:08 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by onifre
08-03-2009 11:01 PM


Re: ICANT in the KCA thread
Hey Oni
While I'm half enjoying my conversation with ICANT at the KCA thread, it's getting a bit frustrating repeating myself.
I feel that I have already done my tour of duty with regard to ICANT and Big Bang cosmology. It can be a self educating experience if nothing else but frustration is inevitable. If you succeed where others have failed I will be very impressed.
Your vid clip reminded me of a conversation I had with my little fella (he's 3) the other day. It started with "Why is it raining?" and proceeded down much the same line......... Maybe I should get him signed up here?

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Percy
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Message 145 of 1725 (518152)
08-04-2009 9:27 AM
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08-04-2009 7:08 AM


Re: ICANT in the KCA thread
Straggler writes:
Your vid clip reminded me of a conversation I had with my little fella (he's 3) the other day. It started with "Why is it raining?" and proceeded down much the same line......... Maybe I should get him signed up here?
Recent conversation with 4-year old grandson:
Me: We have to put the game away now.
Him: Why?
Me: Because we need to use the table for dinner.
Him: Why?
Me: Because that's where we eat dinner.
Him: Why?
Me: Well, where would you like to have dinner?
Him: In the family room.
Me: Why?
Him: Um, because we need the plates there?
Me: Why?
Him: Um, because the cars are on the floor?
Me: Why?
Him: Um, because I played with them.
Me: Why?
Wife: CUT IT OUT!!!
--Percy

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Dr Adequate
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Message 146 of 1725 (518154)
08-04-2009 9:43 AM


Slevesque
Why can't we have more than one sane intelligent creationist at a time?
Who was that guy doing missionary work in Africa? I liked him too ...

DevilsAdvocate
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Message 147 of 1725 (518281)
08-04-2009 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by Percy
08-04-2009 9:27 AM


Re: ICANT in the KCA thread
LOL,
I do the same thing with my 4 year old daughter until she says DAAADDYY, STOP IT!!

For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

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onifre
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Message 148 of 1725 (518332)
08-05-2009 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 144 by Straggler
08-04-2009 7:08 AM


Re: ICANT in the KCA thread
Your vid clip reminded me of a conversation I had with my little fella (he's 3) the other day. It started with "Why is it raining?" and proceeded down much the same line......... Maybe I should get him signed up here?
I know that situation all too well.
Their curiosity is inspiring though, we should all question everything.
But get your 4yr old signed up, I'm sure he'll present much more logical arguments than many here...including me.
- Oni

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Straggler
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Message 149 of 1725 (518387)
08-05-2009 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by onifre
08-05-2009 11:39 AM


Completely Unrelated
But get your 4yr old signed up, I'm sure he'll present much more logical arguments than many here...including me.
On a completely unrelated note.... (and I realise the peanut gallery may not be the place for this....) do you speak Spanish? Do your kids?
Given my missus Argentinian heritage we (i.e. she) is trying to bring up the lil fella bilingual. Fantastic idea. But not easy. Have you any advice or insights on doing this in an almost exclusively English speaking country?
If this is not appropriate for the Peanut gallery we can take this elsewhere..............

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Message 150 of 1725 (518389)
08-05-2009 4:38 PM
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08-05-2009 3:53 PM


Re: Completely Unrelated
The Coffee House forum isn't tightly moderated, just be reasonable about topic diversions. It's too early to tell now, but if it turns out that people here have to be a lot to say about bilingual child rearing then open a new thread.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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