homosexuality and the Bible

Homosexuality is a deviation from what GOD created (which is male
& female). I have never witnessed a birth that didn't originate
in this fashion. People who "say" they feel otherwise are just
trying to cover sin with deception.

It would seem that IGNORACE is bliss.

Psalms 51:5Behold, I was shapened in iniquity; and in sin did my mother
conceive me.Job 14:4Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclea? not one.John 3:6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born
of the Spirit is spirit.Romans 5:12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by
sin; and so death passed unto all men, for that all have sinned.

You will reap what you sow...

The same could be asked of you. I accept hard love.
Even a child may get spanked by a loving parent.
An indifferent parent could care less...

So, we get a young teen (already confused about life) and tell him
that if he isn't practicing fornication by 15 he is obviously gay
and needs to come out. Of course there are older men who would just
love to be of service to our young fledgling (show him the ropes).

Mammuthus:Sir, I believe that a murderer can be a Christian or can become
a Christian. That doesn't mean that a murder wasn't committed
or that it suddenly became OK.The very same is true for a homosexual. The act doesn't take on
righteousness because the person is or becomes a Christian. However,
the indivdual recognizes that he is living in error and is trying to
change with GOD's help. The act isn't OK and lives still can
be ruined by sin.Mr. Jack:You need to remember what it was like being an adolescent and going
through puberty. You need to set aside the attitude and discover
alittle common sense.Dan Carroll:Jesus Christ fulfilled ALL the requirements of the LAW. Christians
are bound by only 2 principles. Love the LORD your GOD with
all your heart, might, soul and love your neighbor as yourself.Who are YOUR neighbors?

Dan Carroll:You need to read the story of the Good Samaritan. It is found in
Luke chapter 10 verses 25-37. I didn't say that it is OK to
be a homosexual or a murderer. I said that it is possible for one
to be a Christian and sin. However, ultimatly only GOD knows a
person's heart and yes, sin ALWAYS has repercussions----both for
the sinner and those around him.God does say in His Word that by their works one may see a fellow
Christian (see Galatians, chapter 5, verses 17-26. Here we have
a comparison of works of the flesh and those of the spirit. This
is what Christians are to use as signs of TRUE spirituality and
godly growth. To live an excuse is no excuse.

You're not to have any other gods but GOD.
Sex can be a god and is in the case of the
homosexual, as the sex has NOTHING to do
with either procreation nor marriage...

DC85:Does a person wake up one morning & say, "I want to be a prostitute?"
Things happen in steps and stages. Choices we make during our lives
and the friends we listen to all have an influence. Some are for
the good and some are bad.
Do you really believe that if it "feels" good that it's good. Perhaps
your friends family were not the ones being ignorant----but then
I never met them nor your friend.Mammuthus:I would submit that you don't KNOW me at all. You don't KNOW my
tastes or friends. You don't KNOW about my youth or my family.
You don't even see my facial expressions. You would judge me
by debate?I would also submit to you that through the middle of the 20th
century, most criminals were considered to have genetic disorders
and that their behavior was hereditary. This supports the Bible's
stand that sin is passed down from father to son to the third and
fourth generation among those that HATE GOD.Mr. Jack:Homosexuals recruit the young and sin is sin. I don't condome
looking at PLAYBOY nor lusting after women. The ONLY reason for
marriage is to start a responsible family unit with GOD at the
top over the father supported by the wife and raising children in
the understanding of the LORD. Calling me a bigot only reflects
your own intolerance...

Rrhain:Did you attend public junior & high school? Look man, when I attended
sex and girls were what most guys seemed to talk about. I was taught
by example that sex was something that happened after marriage----
my parents dated 3 months before they got married in 1948. I was
born 1953---the first child was a miscarriage 1951.What I am saying is that the peer group puts alot of influence on
an individual to CONFORM. I was SAVED when I was 9 years old. I
was was tall and skinny. Hey, I wanted to have muscles and impress
people (girls too). There was this one guy in gym who had the looks, muscles, and dates (if he wanted them). He was a turn on. Fortunately, I knew that coveting (according to the BIBLE) would only lead me into mischief.I was a Bible thumper then too. I had few friends, but those I had
were genuine. I was called a fag, preacher boy, girl, cretin, etc.
One guy that was always busting my chops and made fun of my "prudish"
view of sex would later get AIDS in the 1980's . I never
called him anything nasty and he had lots of dates in high school.
He "acted" the real stud and yet made fun of me for my HONEST
convictions.When I was 19 I filled out and I went to art school (thought I'd
go into advertising). That's another story. Anyway, I loved antiques
(still do) and went to an area flea market. This older guy starts
to talk to me. At the next show he starts asking me where I went
to college, etc... I told him I was taking art classes and he
suggested I follow him to his gallery to look at his etchings.He seemed a nice guy---I wanted to see the art. He starts by touching
my shoulder and asks about money, and asks if I could use some. He
then says he has a friend who is into photography and likes to take
pictures of males. He says I have a nice body and great eyes and
starts to poke me in the chest and says real good money...Sorry, I said I have personal convictions and I start telling him
about Christ. The guy shut right up and I left. His gallery didn't
stay around long after that (I never said anything). So you see,
even the Germans didn't all hate Jews or want to kill people but
it is the choices you make and the slope gets steeper until you
believe that what is wrong really is not...

Rrhain:Sorry, but the guy was 40 something and I was 19. I wouldn't date
a girl 10 years younger then myself. He was "mature" and I was
a kid. I do not agree with you. There are supposed "straight"
guys who like to watch 2 girls. Sorry again, but there is something
very wrong with that.We had a guy who was caught fooling with an area dairy cow. I guess
that if he married the cow, then it would be OK? Do you believe
that satan exists? If you do, wouldn't he attack a person at their
weakest link? There is simply too much graphic sex today, even the
Song of Soloman was not read by men under 30 according to Jewish
tradition.Actually, I used "Germany" but you did pick up on the inference
without a problem. Perhaps it is too good an example?

crashfrog:Has anyone done experimentation to see if DNA markers can be altered
through lifestyle applications? I would think that would be so much
harder to determine. Perhaps they just don't wish to investigate
further...Rrhain:In Galatians 5:16-25 says:'I say then, "Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of
the flesh." For the flesh LUSTETH AGAINST the Spirit, and the Spirit
against the flesh: these are contrary the one to the other: so that
ye cannot do the things that ye WOULD. But if ye be led of the Spirit
ye are not under the law.Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; ADULTERY,
FORNICATION, UNCLEANESS, LASCIVIOUSNESS, IDOLATRY, WITCHCRAFT,
HATRED, VARIANCE, EMULATIONS, WRATH, STRIFE, SEDITIONS, HERESIES,
ENVYINGS, MURDERS, DRUNKENNESS, REVELLINGS, and SUCH LIKE: of which
I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, they which
do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of GOD.But the fruit of the Spirit is LOVE, JOY, PEACE, LONGSUFFERING,
GENTLENESS, GOODNESS, FAITH, MEEKNESS, TEMPERANCE: against such there
is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh
with the passions and lusts.If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.'Now Rrhain, which list does HOMOSEXUALITY fit under-----that of the
flesh or that of the Spirit. This should answer any question of how
GOD views it.
You say that I was a adult at 19. Does a 19 year old possess the
maturity and experiance of a 45 year old man? Funny, I thought one
needed to be 35 to be president of the USA and 21 to drink in many
states. Now just what were our Founding Fathers thinking..?I did the same thing that Joseph did when approached by his master's
wife. He was OLDER and panicked. I did witness to him about Christ.
Isn't that what Christians SHOULD do?Do you believe a person can be phyically injured? What about
psychologically hurt, isn't that possible? Well I believe that
GOD teaches through the BIBLE that man can be Spiritually damaged
as well. If you are not a Christian, you cannot understand this.What I was suggesting is that Satan uses deviate sex to hold the
unsaved in bondage and destroy the testimony of believers. You
seem to have no clue that it isn't about what YOU think---it is
ALL about what GOD WANTS. Ask yourself the question, "What would
Jesus do?"I don't see people beating down the church doors to become Anglican
priests or even just to attend one of their churchs. I don't see it.
Maybe it is different in England. Have the countries that endorce
Homosexuality become more spritual and godly since doing so?
What would Jesus say and do?

OK, so some people "may" have a genetic link to homosexuality.
That link may enable some to be creative or artistic. It may also
tend to make them gentle and of a sweet disposition. This in no
way proves that GOD endorses gay sex. It can also demonstrate that
sinful man will abuse and apply an otherwise perfect gift from GOD for
selfish and sinful purposes.There is NO endorsement from GOD's WORD for the practice of
homosexual acts. In fact the story of Sodom & Gomorrah as found
in Genesis, chapter 19 should make anyone of an honest heart for
doing GOD's will shudder.Jesus Christ himself in Matthew Chapter 19:3-12 and Mark 10:2-12,
Jesus gives FULL CREDIENCE TO GENESIS 2:24 and the institution of
marriage as ONLY FOR A MAN AND A WOMAN. Would a Homosexual
consider himself a eunuch? I don't think so...

Mark24:I think I made myself clear. Man calls it a "gay" gene and sinful
man has applied the traits to his own deviate lusts. This isn't
the world that GOD created. This is a fallen world populated by
sinful humans.It seems that some would use the supposed finding of a "gay" gene
to blame GOD. Can a heterosexual blame GOD for making him an
adulterer or lusting fornicator? No, God didn't MAKE man to sin.Homosexuality is an attempt to ruin & destroy real L O V E. The
kind of LOVE that causes one man to hug and kiss the cheek of another
whose dad just died. The kind of LOVE that says, I want nothing
(and takes nothing) and would cause one to give his life to save
his friend(s).Homosexuality attempts to bring marriage DOWN to its level. It
suggests that a guy simply wants to bang a girl and thrust his tongue
down her throat. That isn't LOVE at all. That is LUST and GREED
and CHEAP THRILLS. Real LOVE says, you're safe with me, I will not
hurt you. I want what is BEST for you. I will protect you.
It isn't about who is on top and who is stronger and who is in charge.
GOD is in charge and the man is accountable to GOD and woman is to
HOLD the man accountable to GOD through her prayers and submission.Homosexuality isn't "gay" at all. That is just a lie to hide the
truth. Homosexuality is anthing but gay, it is horrible and a real
pain in the butt! There is another example of an abused body part
that GOD intended for another purpose. Don't blame GOD for your
genes, ask GOD to forgive you and make HIM LORD of your life and
not S E X.