homosexuality and the Bible

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Get yourself a STRONGS Concordance and look up "Serpant".

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Done and done.And yes, in Revelations, there is a serpent called the devil.What does Revelations have to do with Genesis?In literal terms, now... which word is used in Genesis? Serpent or Satan?

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Remember, I use the Bible and not my opinion to understand the Scriptures----not Dan Carroll.

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Considering that what I'm doing is referencing the text without interpretation, (you know... reading the word "serpent" as "serpent") I don't think you're doing much listening to either me or the bible.

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(Of course, I'm assuming you hold to a belief in a 6000 year old earth, and that the flood happened 2500 years before present)

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I intended to say "...that the flood happened 4500 years before present" as is commonly held by the likes of AiG. That would place the flood at 2500 BC.EDIT: LOL. I suppose I should correct my symbology a bit too. Instead typing "4500 ybp" I should type "4500 ybp" lest I give the impression that the flood might have happened up to 4500 years in the future. D'OH!!!Blessings,::[This message has been edited by ::, 08-22-2003]

Dan:I thought that you were smarter then that. I guess not.

Brian:Bashing only seems to count if it is against homosexuals. I'm
not impressed with your view of freedom of speech. I at least
love the sinner while hating the sin.The same isn't at all apparent towards Christians who hold the
Word of GOD as TRUTH. Sorry, you're so narrow minded.

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I thought that you were smarter then that. I guess not.

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Assume I'm an idiot.Explain to me in very simple terms, so I can understand.How can one have a literal reading of the bible which reads the word "serpent" as the word "satan?"While we're at it, why would God punish Satan by making him crawl on his belly and eat dirt? Sounds a little... I dunno, playground bully-ish to me.

:::thundering applause and cheers::::Well done! Good show! Hear! Hear!Seriously A_Christian, reducing your only comments to insults when your beliefs are challenged will not get you far in convincing others to hold your beliefs too.Blessings,::

Yet Brian contradicts you and calls Romans 1 and "unambiguous" reference to homosexuality. I agreed with what Brian said almost across the board before he ever posted. You need to read the posts again.

so I am a better person for having UNCONTROLLABLE feelings toward women? Why should someone be Hurt and punished for something they can't help? once again I say this is an EVIL God if he would punish someone for having Uncontrollable feelings. Why not act on them if someone else feels the same way? are they not allowed to be happy like you and me Because they are Homosexual? If you think they shouldn't you and Your God are twisted

I guess.... it seems more like he's talking about marriage, to me. I mean, he never really says anything about the kind of sex you can have, for instance "Thou shalt not suck a penis."Splitting hairs, perhaps. It seems more like Jesus was concerned about who you were betraying when you had sex, not who you were having it with, or how you were having it. I guess that may have been my point...

Since it's spelled "serpent," we'd have trouble finding it.Once we did, one of the coolest things I found under serpent is tha fact that the "fiery serpents" that bit the Israelites under Moses are the same as the "Seraphim" in Isaiah 6.Isn't it interesting that translators think seraphim in the Torah ought to be translated "fiery serpents" or "poisonous snakes," but in Isaiah they think it ought to be untranslated and left as Seraphim.I totally like the idea of dragons in heaven, and winged, fiery serpents (six wings at that) who talk and have feet definitely qualify as dragons.

Nope, it counts against anyone who is generalising and persistently being offensive to a group or an individual. As I have said on another thread, freedom of speech is a human right that comes with responsibilities, you seem unaware of this.I have ONLY asked you to try and be a bit more tactful, a bit more selective with your choice of words. You can say virtually the same things as you have been saying but in a more sensitive manner. I am sorry if you do not have the vocabulary to do this but at least try. So why continually offend the sinner then? Could you explain this for me please? See Matthew 7:1-5 again!AdminBrian

I must have missed the "love" part. Could you back up and show me where you made statements that display your love for homosexuals? All I've been hearing is invective.

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A_Christian writes:

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Maybe it is different in England. Have the countries that endorce Homosexuality become more spritual and godly since doing so?

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It would seem so. They don't have nearly the level of problems that we do in this country. They have lower levels of crime, lower levels of teen pregnancy, lower levels of abortion, lower levels of divorce, and more church attendance.

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Bit confused why my country is being cited as endorcing homosexuality, we (unfortunately) don't allow gay marriages, and unlike the american branch of the CoE our's shouted down the appointment of a gay bishop.On to the point. Actually, Rrhain, divorce rates are higher in England than in America. But let's not forget that it's Atheists who have the lowest divorce rate of any religious grouping in the USA.

Mr. Jack,Atheists have the lowest divorce rate.... Maybe that is because
they don't believe in the institution of marriage?

AdminBrian:Short or accepting the homosexual life style as holy and not sinful,
there is no way of not offending the entire "group" as you have
suggested. You might wish me not to say anything. That I can not
do. Those verses apply to Christians who go outside the Word of
GOD to judge others. Obviously, that is what everyone ELSE seem to be doing towards me----applying their OWN philosophy. I have only
used sound Bible teaching and have tried to be respectiful. Just
read some of the other's remarks and they are anything but.
That seems to speak for itself.