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Author Topic:   Christ making statements about Creation
mike the wiz
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Message 13 of 83 (520968)
08-25-2009 7:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by New Cat's Eye
08-22-2009 7:39 PM


I think it is a sound point that you state that one can be evolutionist and Christian. I think that's true, or I would say it is based on experience of being evolutionist for a time while retaining my faith.
I think though, to make a case that Christ didn't believe in His own Jewish history, is a bit of a stretch, afterall, he uses the scripture to prove His own case, such as quotes from Isaiah and Daniel. It's clear that He believed the veracity of the scriptures, saying that they spoke of Him.
I think we can conclude that He believed in the flood, I think you make hard work trying to make a case for an evolutionist Christ.
He believed in Moses, saying He spoke of Him. It would seem implausable to suppose that He would value the scriptures as truth, but deny a literal flood.
And why would he conquer death? Theologically that would become such a weak reason because if death was always there and blood and guts is "very good", then it follows that sine and death wouldn't have any theological meaning to Christ.
But yes, I think being a theistic evolutionist you can genuinely be born again.
Edited by mike the wiz, : No reason given.

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mike the wiz
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Message 65 of 83 (523064)
09-08-2009 6:14 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by hooah212002
09-02-2009 7:32 AM


Ofcourse, that sounds smart atleast.
In reality, what book are you talking about precisely? I certainly would not state that the Pharisees thought that a book that wasn't written, or "books" rather, would fit with "their" scriptures.
The bible was written over thousands of years. It would be a pre-hoc fallacy to state that Jesus was trying to prove his book when technically he died before there was such a book. That would mean that you actually believed in Christ's phrophetic abilities.
So we have to infact agree with all of those unstated assumption in your post. Such as christ being a character.
I guess it then becomes fair of me to propose that such a novel be written within one lifetime, as expected from all other tales? I expect it becomes fair for me to state that there must only be one author like with all other fairytales?
.........sure, your post sounded smart, I'll give you that.

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