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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi cpthiltz, and welcome to the fray.
In Message 1 you state:
... I have a basic knowledge on evolution, ... And then you post this:
Why is there hardly any evidence in the fossil record of the millions & millions of complex organism with failed mutations? Evolution brings order out of chaos, the chaos must leave behind some "mess" surely? - this "mess" being millions of recorded failed mutations within the fossil record. Which betrays a vast ignorance of the basics of evolution and what the fossil record shows. If you did have a basic understanding, then you would realize that what you have posted is rubbish thinking.
Why does the fossil record show little/no evidence of the millions of failed mutation which must have occurred for every successful one? To explore why you think it should, lets start with the basics: (1) what is evolution, the basic process, in biology?(2) how does evolution occur? (3) what happens to cause speciation? That should be a good starting point: three easy questions for anyone who understands the basics of evolution. Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi greyseal, [:wave:]
please just go to the library and read up on paleontology, geology and perhaps even beg, borrow, steal or buy "the origin of species" SeeDarwin Online and http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?itemID=F373&... the text is searchable. Also see
Sir Charles Lyell, Principles of Geology, 1830 edition with links to other original works by scientists in various fields. Lots of good information available. Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Welcome to the fray, ApostateAbe
"Why is there hardly any evidence in the fossil record of the millions & millions of complex organism with failed mutations?" There's an easy way to mark quotes: type [qs]quotes are easy[/qs] and it becomes:
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quote: also check out (help) links on any formatting questions when in the reply window. For other formatting tips see Posting Tips We do have much more redundancy than we would expect. The evolution, given the fossils, seems step-wise rather than continuous. I think this is pretty well explaned with punctuated equilibrium, where the fossils tend to represent the stable majority population instead of the evolving minority. I bring that up because it seems to be a common objection, and I am not sure if that helps or not. But even punk-eek can take many generations to develop, it just seems rapid by comparison to the timeline of fossils. Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
must have reached his 10 post requirement.
CHALLENGE: Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary Intelligent Design Students Edited by RAZD, : link by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi ICDESIGN, welcome to the fray.
Apart from intelligent design, what can coordinate the incidental changes that hereditary transmission passes from one generation to the next? I object to your monolithic characterisation of design as intelligent, and challenge you to show why we shouldn't discuss BOTH SIDES of the Design Controversy. Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi again ICDESIGN,
Both sides should be discussed, absolutely. Great. Then I'll see you on the BOTH SIDES of the Design Controversy thread. Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi ICDesign
I was looking at how much time you spend trying to defend evolution I was looking for you to debate both sides of the design controversy, but you haven't said boo yet. see Silly Design Institute: Let's discuss BOTH sides of the Design Controversy... A dog has been and always will be a dog. Care to discuss why this is so?
Dogs will be Dogs will be ??? Of course you may need more than one-liners and bald assertions. Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : st by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi ICDesign,
content hidden Ah, I see that you do NOT want to debate both sides of the design controversy, what you want to do is declare that your opinion is true. Thanks for making that clarification. Mockingbird - Wikipedia
quote: Bird Intelligence: The Mockingbird
quote: Fascinating what you can learn about the real world eh? Enjoy.
{Maybe slightly on-topic. But I doubt it. - Adminnemooseus} Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic stuff. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Welcome to the fray, Calypsis4.
I am enjoying my first day on this website but sir, I have a question. I like to post illustrations and have made a few so far. Is there a rule about pictoral illustrations as far as the number per post? See Posting Tips for some useful tip. Enjoy.
... as you are new here, some posting tips: type [qs]quotes are easy[/qs] and it becomes:
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