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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
Rahvin,
I am not sure that he doesn't understand the analogy. I think he is just trying to get through to you his perspective and chooses to argue rather than communicate, directly(hence i disagree and the like), that he disagrees. Edited by Sasuke, : edit OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
cavediver,
cavediver writes: I'm not talking about the origin of the time dimension (T=0), which most would point to as a moment of creation. Would our undertanding of time not change if string theory is theorized? I think so... Edited by Sasuke, : edit OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
ICANT,
ICANT writes: experience time Entropy, change, and decomposition are physical properties of time. Time measures these qualities and as such that is the major issue with T=0. You can experience all three of these properties via experience or death. If you are an old man you should be well aware of the affect of time. When was the last time you had a physical? I still think you are aware of these variables but you just like to argue. OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
lyx2no,
lyx2no writes:
The distance between two objects is not made of a material as one understands materials What about the very fabric of space? Edited by Sasuke, : add - clarity OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
Perdition,
I missunderstood your point at first. Bump this msg. Edited by Sasuke, : mistake OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
ICANT,
however your memories of your wife, your kids, lost loved ones, and so on should def remind you of change, entropy, death, all properties of this symbolic meaning "time". ------ ICANT,
ICANT writes: At 70 I am well aware of the effects of the passing of time. But I have never experienced time.
This is contradictory in nature. Are you mad? Edited by Sasuke, : edit OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
ICANT,
ICANT writes: But really all those things you talk about is the effects of passing time, which is a lot of now's, or should I just say existence, as that is what it is.
How is passing existence in the now? why has your body changed? how are you 70? I will agree with you that the word "time" is an invention of man. However the concept of TIME is the best "model" if there is such a thing that conceptually is a better understanding of things that were and are, esp from a measurement perspective. Edited by Sasuke, : word change.. Edited by Sasuke, : edit Edited by Sasuke, : edit OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
straggler,
Ok I will agree that time and math have existed as long as our universe has existed. Edited by Sasuke, : edit Edited by Sasuke, : clarity OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
Straggler,
I edited my last post. Edited by Sasuke, : edit OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
ICANT,
from a philosophical perspective sure time could not exist but from a scientific perspective, based on current models, time is a product of the universe. Sure time variations or understandings could change but that does not change that based on science time is a product of the universe. OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
Mod,
I wonder what he will do when the gravitons escape, if they do, from our spacetime during the LHC experiment. Edited by Sasuke, : err OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
ICANT,
yes and by that definition you have experienced "duration". So you have experienced TIME since that is the def of time. OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
mike the wiz,
I dont know if I understand you correctly but it seems that you are claiming that abiogenesis is unlikely. You do realize that abiogenesis would be simply life coming from non life. The idea of abiogenesis actually does support the assertion of their being a god. So why would you argue it? OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
mike,
The idea with abiogenesis is that simply biological life came from non biological life. The genesis account in the bible can be interpreted many differnt ways but if you narrow it down to just the literal interpretations you prob still have many different ways. So the "abiogenesis" concept does support the position of genesis in the Bible. In short, if god is biological it denies abiogenesis however if god is not biological then abiogenesis is supported by the bible even from a literal standpoint. So it depends on your view of GOD but in that case if you're asserting god is biological I would like to see how a biological life can live an eternity. OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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Sasuke Member (Idle past 5182 days) Posts: 137 Joined: |
ICANT,
if you cant dispute duration then you cant dispute time. OPEN YOUR MIND! Sasuke!
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