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Are Fundamentalists Inherently Immoral

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Huntard
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08-27-2009 5:15 AM 		Reply to: Message 29 by Holyfire23
08-26-2009 11:07 PM

Holyfire23 writes:
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So if morality is decided subjectively and according to one's social surroundings, than that means right and wrong do not exist.
No. It means absolute right and wrong don't exist.
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What is considered wrong for western culture might be okay for other cultures?
Yes, and I would still call it wrong.
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Tell me this. Is it wrong for these men to be doing this.
Yes.
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Is this not evil?
Yes.
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In our culture this is repulsive, but in their culture it is a way of entertainment.
Then they are sick individuals.
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If you subscribe to the belief that morality is subjective to cultural interpretation than these men who do these awful things cannot be held accountable for what they do.
Of course they can.
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Following the logic behind subjective morality, they have done nothing wrong.
Actually, following the logic, they have. They just dont think so. I, and I am sure a whole host of others, would say they did.
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Do you guys honestly support this view?
No. You misunderstood it, it seems.
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Huntard
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08-29-2009 1:46 PM 		Reply to: Message 112 by Holyfire23
08-29-2009 9:13 AM

Re: Objective morality versus good and evil
If there is an imperfect being defining morality, how can man reach true morality?
By learning from past mistakes.
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If ther is no perfect being to define morality, then man starts to define morality based on his reasoning, and then starts to reason based on his morality.
Yes. What's the problem here, since it is men who have to deal with the everyday choices, I'd say it's best if they decide on which choice is the best one.
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This argument is patheticaly circular.
No it isn't. Yours however is pathetically easy to undecut. First of all, proof god exists, and then proof his morality is "perfect" Better yet, define what a "perfect morality" IS.
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Answer me this question. What happens when two men reach two different moral conclusions using their own reasoning?
They discuss what to do with each other. Good arguments might sway one.
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