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A_Christian
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Message 161 of 238 (52166)
08-25-2003 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 160 by Mammuthus
08-25-2003 4:37 AM


And evolution isn't about thinking at all, but agreeing. If it were
about thinking----creationism would not be considered a threat by the
ACLU...

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A_Christian
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Message 166 of 238 (52191)
08-25-2003 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 165 by crashfrog
08-25-2003 4:06 PM


Crashfrog:
That is a preposterous statement. It is creationism that has been
excluded from most public school discussions simply because the
students have heard no mention of it while studying science, history,
or social studies.
The "Christian" schools; on the other hand, do invite discussion
and try to explain the origin of evolution and attempt an honest
balance.
How do you get a student to investigate data if one is lead to believe
that ALL the data has already been correctly pondered and Evolution
is FACT? The case is closed and the student memorizes the chapter.
That isn't science.
The ACLU wants no public mention of GOD. They feel (rightly so) that
Creationism offers evidence supporting Biblical history (even though
no mention of GOD needs to be stated).
It is EVOLUTION that gets State promotion, funding (even Christian
tax dollars), and is declared as fact. Even old charts that are
out dated are still being promoted as solid. And yet Creationism
gets no atheist's tax funding nor state sponcership through
scholarship studies. It has been an uphill battle for Creationists.

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A_Christian
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Message 171 of 238 (52216)
08-25-2003 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by Brian
08-25-2003 5:39 PM


Well, it seems to me that there is no proof of any intermediate species development for the Cambrian explosion when fully developed species just POP into existance.
The way the vast majority of all fossiles formed was very quickly
under extreem pressure and in mud & water.
The charts that appear in science books that demonstrate evolution
through the the embryonic stages are actually a hoax.
Scientific study and experimentation belongs in a science class.
Evolution belongs in a "religious" class under belief systems.
ALL traces of DNA will disappear under adverse conditions or within
8 THOUSAND years (whatever comes 1st).

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A_Christian
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Message 198 of 238 (52343)
08-26-2003 12:00 PM


Creation science is rather new. When I attended school the only book
that made waves was THE GENESIS FLOOD, by John C. Whitcomb, Jr., 1961.
Evolution had, by that time, been weaving a scholastic trail since the
1930's. The 1964 decision to block public displays of religion WAS
the icing on the cake that made fundamental theologists aware that
science was now entirely in the hands of evolutionists, and that ALL
puplic school children would have little if any exposure to Biblical
influence (unless the parent made the effort).
To understand the problem let us look at a simple problem. The
height of the Alps. An evolutionistic science teacher would say that
there is not enough water to have covered them by a FLOOD. What is
lacking, is proof that the ALPS were that high prior to the FLOOD.
This the evolutionist will not bother to discuss.
This will sound silly but makes a valid point. A dish is created 100
years ago. The dish is then dropped and breaks into hundreds of
pieces. Now let's say all the pieces are sweeped into a pile----
how old is the pile? If we examine the pieces, we might prove that
the glaze was of a type used 100 years ago; however, that doesn't
tell me how long that pile has been sitting on the floor.
If GOD created an "established" world in 6 days, what would it look
like? The indications are that Adam looked a 30 year old man, at
least he was not created a baby. We do know that Jesus started his
ministry at age 30 and he is comparied to Adam.
While Science can only measure what it sees, religion has always
depended on revelation. Presently, some scientists are trying
to exclude the possibility of revelation and replacing it with opinion and humanistic reasoning. It will take years of research and
scientific study to establish a Creationistic view that can rebuff
the damage caused by those bent on totally a materialistic view
of why we exist scientifically. I am not a scientist: however, I am
aware that ALL the answers to questions are not only for them to
answer. This is another reason why I am a Christian. it answers
the question WHY?

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A_Christian
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Message 202 of 238 (52361)
08-26-2003 2:02 PM


Admin:
No, it wasn't. It there any reason why you seem to give me so
much trouble with my postings? It seems unresonable to have to type
everyting two times, and in a manor that suits your tastes. If
the idea is to eliminate certain opinions, then you are doing an
excellent job. This has to be the worst forum I've ever been on.
I can only believe that there may be a motive for this.
If you no longer wish me to post here, please tell me so and I will
go away and you can proceed with your mutual admiration society
without salt and pepper.

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A_Christian
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Message 204 of 238 (52363)
08-26-2003 2:19 PM


Mark24:
I am not a scientist. Dr James Kennedy is speaking out against
evolution on Coral Ridge Ministries program on Sundays in most
locals. If you REALLY want names and answers tune the show in and
watch, and if not ---- I guess you'll be left wanting...

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A_Christian
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Message 207 of 238 (52368)
08-26-2003 2:45 PM


Because the data was presented during the James Kennedy Program.
What makes you think you're so great. I'm not impressed with
most of what evolutionists THINK they know. It is what they
want everyone else to accept is what bothers me. I enjoy the
way evolutionist belittle those that disagree with them. Don't
you know that only make you look vular and cheap.

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A_Christian
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Message 208 of 238 (52369)
08-26-2003 2:49 PM


AdminBrian:
You really are a wet blanket. Why not just close this topic, too?
That would solve YOUR problem.

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