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Author | Topic: Atheist evolutionists: How far will you allow yourselves of sexual perversities? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
well, a man in japan recently had consensual sex with a bench at a bus stop
he had to be surgically removed somethings gotta be said for boundaries lol
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
apparently it didnt complain
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
lol
are you really making an argument out of an inanimate object???
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
lol i obviously wasnt taking myself as seriously as you
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
mark24 writes: Any sexual activity by consenting adults is fine by me . does that include fathers and adult daughters, or adult sons and mothers or sisters and brothers?? or how about animals and humans? Edited by Peg, : No reason given.
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
sure animals can consent
they've made a whole porn industry out of it
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
mark24 writes: The point being I said consent was required & peg provided an example where consent was impossible. so if a male dog actively participates in a sexual act with a female human, the dog is not consenting?
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
PaulK writes: But do Christians consider all fornication to be equally bad ? In your view, is homosexuality worse than adultery as defined in Mark 10:11-12 ? i can tell you that the bible is clear that they are each as bad as the other. The Greek word translated fornication is porneia. Its a general term for all unlawful intercourse. It includes adultery, unlawful marriage, prostitution, unchastity. homosexuality is fornication just as hetrosexuals having sex outside of marriage is fornication & even masturbation is fornication There is no differentiating between hetrosexual misconduct, and homosexual misconduct in the bible...they are viewed in the same light along with other 'works of the flesh' Galatians 5:19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, and they are fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, 20idolatry, practice of spiritism, enmities, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, contentions, divisions, sects, 21envies, drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these. As to these things I am forewarning YOU, the same way as I did forewarn YOU, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s kingdom. so homosexuality is no worse then any other form of immoral sexual conduct.
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
PaulK writes: Then you are going to have to explain why many Protestant Churches are willing to support adultery (as in Mark 10:11-12). - but will not show the same tolerance to homosexual behaviour. Jesus words about divorce show that Gods standard is that married couples should stay together, thats a certainty However, its also the ideal and in an ideal world you would expect that husbands and wives, men and women could live side by side in perfect harmony. Unfortunately this isnt an ideal world and problems exist that sometimes make it impossible for a man and woman to remain together.This is the reason why God gave Isreal a 'concession' to divorce, however christians were taught not to divorce one another unless adultery has been committed or the situation was so bad, they could separate. Im not sure exactly what you mean by they 'support adultery' If they are following the bible, then they should be viewing adultery as a disfellowshipping offence. Personally, i think homosexuality is picked on more because its a minority involved and its not considered to be a natural act. Sex between males and females is probably easier to understand and therefore accept. (thats just my opinion btw)
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
Hyroglyphx writes: I agree that this is the way the bible views it, which I think is why he is asking why many fundamentalist Christians treat homosexuality more severely than other forms of sexual sin. i think its easier to point the finger at someone else, especially when they are going beyond what is considered normal and natuaral Its also a high possibility that they make more allowances for adultery becuase they are committing it. Its very easy to make allowances for ourselves when we sin, but to point the finger at others for doing the same thing or doing what they consider to be worse. The problem with that is that God says "stop judging that you may not be judged, for with the portion that you are judging, you yourself will be judged" Or simply put, its hypocrisy.
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
PaulK writes: I mean exactly what I say. According to Mark 10:11-12 remarriage after divorce is adultery. Yet most Protestant Churches will actually carry out such weddings. Ah ok, i see what you're saying. if they are deliberately not upholding Gods standard, then they are not being true to christianity. but the NT does make allowance for divorce if adultery has occurred.Matt 19:9 "I say to YOU that whoever divorces his wife, EXCEPT ON THE GROUND OF FORNICATION, and marries another commits adultery i dont know the personal circumstances of every christian who divorces, but it is clear what Gods standard is as mentioned by jesus. Christians are prone to the same weaknesses and problems that everyone else faces, some manage to pull through intact, and others fall into sin. But this does not mean that because they've done that, they have no means of forgiveness. If they approach God out of repentence for their mistakes, they will be taken back. This goes for homosexuals too, they are given the same concessions by God. Edited by Peg, : No reason given.
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
PaulK writes: If it is so clear, why exactly do Mark and Luke both miss out the exception ? If it isn't clear to the Gospel authors, how can it be clear to you ? I dont believe they missed the exception. The gospels are individual accounts and they don't all have to be completely identical to be accurate.the gospels should be read as a whole because together they give a more detailed picture of Jesus teachings.
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
PaulK writes: So you are saying that someone else edited it out ? Because it isn't there. And why would both Mark and Luke have been edited in this way and not Matthew ? no im simply saying they didnt write it in just as they did not write other events that happened. if you were to read 3 or 4 different biographies written by different authors about the same person, you would likely hear some different details in each of them that give you a wider picture of the person you are reading about. the gospel writers did not copy from each other, they wrote their own accounts and they did not all write the same details.
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Peg Member (Idle past 4951 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
im not going to go into who wrote what because its off topic here
purpledawn writes: So the question remains. If Christianity claims that all sexual misconduct is equally disdainful and unacceptable, then why allow and even perform marriages of people who have divorced their mate for reasons other than fornication, but not allow homosexuals to live and marry without being harassed? a widow can marry again and it is not considered adultery as can an innocent partner in a marriage (usually its only one who is unfaithful) the other is free to remarry. so it really depends on the circumstances and if the church even knows all the circumstances of the ones getting married. I would suspect they probably dont. But overall, the church does not apply the bible sure they claim it as their main text book but the facts speak otherwise. They do not apply the bible and havnt done so for a very long time.
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