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Author Topic:   Are Fundamentalists Inherently Immoral
Dr Adequate
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Message 12 of 161 (521238)
08-26-2009 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Holyfire23
08-26-2009 1:06 PM


Re: Unjust Wrath
What makes it ok for you to judge the Midianites but not God?
Because I am not a genocidal psychopath. This makes me clearly morally superior to the biblegod. I don't say that I am really qualified to sit in judgment over anyone, but obviously I am better qualified to do so than the imaginary invisible man who lives in your head, because I am obviously his moral superior. On this subject it is scarcely possible for me to say "duh" loud enough.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 36 of 161 (521336)
08-27-2009 3:06 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Holyfire23
08-26-2009 6:45 PM


Should I Rape Suzy? Part IV
Humanity is depraved at its very core. We cannot determine what is moral and what is not by ourselves.
And when you say that, you plunge me back into the moral abyss.
Look, I think that I shouldn't rape Suzy. But according to you, I am not qualified to judge. So ... I'll toss a coin, right? Heads, I won't rape Suzy ...

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Dr Adequate
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Message 37 of 161 (521337)
08-27-2009 3:11 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Holyfire23
08-26-2009 3:28 PM


On Whose Standards?
And by whose standards do you base your moral opinion? I encourage everyone to answer this question.
Like everyone else in the world, I base my moral opinion on my own standards. Same as you.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 42 of 161 (521357)
08-27-2009 7:29 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Holyfire23
08-26-2009 11:07 PM


Tell me this. Is it wrong for these men to be doing this. Is this not evil? In our culture this is repulsive, but in their culture it is a way of entertainment. If you subscribe to the belief that morality is subjective to cultural interpretation than these men who do these awful things cannot be held accountable for what they do. Following the logic behind subjective morality, they have done nothing wrong. Do you guys honestly support this view?
But you have got this completely ass-backwards.
"Following the logic behind subjective morality", I find that if I think that that's wrong, then that's wrong.
Meanwhile, following your logic, it seems that if I think that that's wrong I might be wrong about whether it's wrong, and no mere fallible human, such as myself, can decide that that's wrong. So I might as well toss a coin to find out whether I should condemn such practices or join in.
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By the way, I am sure that you'll be relieved to learn that the story we're discussing is a lie. Horrible things do happen, but fortunately this isn't one of them. Obviously that never happened.
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Message 158 of 161 (523611)
09-11-2009 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by mike the wiz
09-09-2009 10:36 AM


But Jack the Ripper doesn't. He said that according to his relative morals, I should rape. I told him I don't want to rape therefore he concluded I was immoral.
Jack the Ripper wasn't a rapist. He killed prostitutes --- you know, like the Bible says to, except that he used a knife instead of stoning them to death.
As he was never caught, we have no way of knowing his moral philosophy. However, his nearest analogue, the "Yorkshire Ripper", when arrested, claimed to be doing God's will, and you can't argue with that, can you? No room for "relative morals" there.

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