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Author Topic:   Why is it that God couldn't have made Creation with evolution?
RAZD
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Message 93 of 167 (523928)
09-13-2009 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Blissful
08-19-2009 6:17 PM


It's obvious.
Hi Blissful, sorry you haven't stuck around to debate your position.
Church teachings have changed over time as the Magesterium have reinterpreted the Bible and as such I feel it would be possible that the Bible is the Truth written in a manner suited for the people it was intended to be read by: not the scientific Man of today but the spiritual Man of the past. It seems a stretch to take the Bibles word as complete scientific fact if you then reject other scientific fact and evidence.
I wonder why you stopped there. Logically this could be applied to any religion, and you are left with god/s communicating with people in a manner they could understand.
From the point of view of early man, created by God in His image if you will, the world began around 6000 years ago, a time they could understand, and creatures were described as they were at his time. God created plenty of mysteries for people to explore, His very nature being the greatest example, and it seems a bit much to assume that He decided to reveal Creation in complete crystal detail.
Curiously, once you reach this conclusion, you have no need to adhere to a 6000 year old creation.
I'll end by saying I have no agenda in asking this, I'm simply curious of others thoughts and this is a line of thinking which I feel could yield some interesting ideas, though I doubt they'll be conclusive.
To answer your question -- Why is it that God couldn't have made Creation with evolution? -- the answer is obvious:
Evolution exists. It is observed every day. It is observed in the natural history record of this earth.
Therefore, IF god/s created the world as it exists, THEN they must have incorporated evolution in that creation.
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RAZD
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Message 103 of 167 (523986)
09-13-2009 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Otto Tellick
09-13-2009 7:55 PM


cone jellies
Hi Otto,
Perhaps this will turn up -- perhaps someone has already identified non-toxic jellyfish (this actually seems rather likely, but I'm not a marine biologist).
A lot of cone jellies are not toxic. There is a species in the waters here in RI that absorbs sunlight energy during the day and if disturbed at night will light up. Makes for fun night swims when there are a lot of them (bloom). I've held them in my hand.
http://makefun.cn/...-in-palau-jellyfish-lake-of-philippines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJfzWv5pHU0
Mildred Belle: Day Six: Sloshy Shoes and Mounds of Goo
Mildred Belle: Day 7: A Cone Jelly Buffet
quote:
As it got dark, we swam with the bio-luminescent, sting-free cone jellies, which glow in the dark every time you disturb one with a swimming stroke.
We pulled up the net with another load of pure cone jellies, but this time was more exciting because everyone got up the courage to eat one. These deceptively slimy-looking jellies are non-stinging and actually quite edible, and some of us developed quite the taste for them.
Now you might argue that they are not jellyfish, as they are Ctenophore rather than Cnidaria, but they are popularly called jellyfish by people and are mostly non-toxic.
See Ctenophora - Wikipedia for more
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