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Author Topic:   Science, dogmas, and AiG Creation Museum statement of faith
MrGrim
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Message 7 of 39 (525177)
09-22-2009 6:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by ApostateAbe
09-20-2009 4:55 PM


Science falsely so called:
Hi,
Thanks for great topic.
I agree with you. Though christians are not excluded from the science arena, science has its own rules, and christian conduct its own.
I also, as a scientist think Evolution "Theory" is an example of poor science. I also as a christian won't pretend that God is provable.
Jesus can be known, personally. And as a result if you find Him and follow Him, you do as He says (for your own good), and if a christian is to claim the bible as begin and end of his actions, then he finds himself under instruction to tell others about Him and arguing and debating about nitty-gritty we-want-to-proof-to-you-god-created-all topics, is actually against His will and proof of not knowing Him and lack of trust.
It is not a christian's purpose to proof Jesus is God and created all, but just to let others know that He provided an escape from hell.
To try and start a science called creationism or similar, would put you in no better position as a pro-theory-of-evolution-is-science dude.
I like the poster (picture). Yes I feel proud of it too. Jesus is the only totalatarian who sets you free... Something you have to experience before it brings a smile to your face.
Aw, well.
Thanks again. You strike an effective point.
The word dogma bothers me. I doubt a catholic cares much for what the real God really wants. They have a set of rules (dogma) which, though they claim it is based on the bible, it isn't. These are words of the pope more likely, yes.
Like those church leaders whom call themselves shepherds, when they are meant to be one of the sheep. There is only one shepherd: Jesus. And he is not pleased with wasteful debates. Christians should stay away.
1 Timothy 6:20-21a O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.
Edited by MrGrim, : Correcting me bad idiot grammer...

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MrGrim
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Posts: 11
From: Jo'burg
Joined: 09-18-2009


Message 9 of 39 (525191)
09-22-2009 8:13 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by PaulK
09-22-2009 7:51 AM


The fantasy of Evolution
Hi,
You mistake me with someone who cares.
Why should I care about the selective blindness of others?
It's simple. You ask God (in the name of Jesus). You look. You see. It's obvious.
It doesn't require pages and pages of proofs.
No new threads from me, sorry
I adressed the topic: Christians should stay clear of trying to proof God exists, because they are being disobedient otherwise.
Thats what the pretty bible quote was for.
Regarding mixing tradition with scripture:
Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

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MrGrim
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Posts: 11
From: Jo'burg
Joined: 09-18-2009


Message 17 of 39 (525352)
09-23-2009 4:56 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by PaulK
09-22-2009 1:49 PM


What I deserve
Hi ya,
Yes indeed I don't deserve any benefit of any doubt. Why I didn't even ask for any benefit of any doubt.
I don't want your approval either.
What I DO deserve is to burn all eternity in hell, because I am that useless and un deserving.
Now that I reduced my worth and deservedness to zero, and since I am better at insulting me then you are, you have to resort to flattery and lies to annoy me from here on.
Sorry to disappoint you. Yes, I am a big disappointment as well... Have you ever seen something as pathetic a creature as I am.
Didn't think so.
"Next!"

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MrGrim
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Message 18 of 39 (525353)
09-23-2009 5:14 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by ApostateAbe
09-22-2009 8:27 PM


The Evangelical method...
Hi,
I understand people like you, because I was like you.
Understanding people serves little evangelical purpose. Understanding God the Father does.
People's motivations are of little matter. God's motives for damning them to hell does matter.
Avoiding debate is essential: There can not be any middle ground, compromise or meeting a person half way.
  • God is always right and you are usually wrong so you listen.
  • God knows everything and you are usually stupid so you ask a lot.
I'd say that science has no elevated place in my faith.
To avoid eternal damnation is more important than science and debate.

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MrGrim
Junior Member (Idle past 5281 days)
Posts: 11
From: Jo'burg
Joined: 09-18-2009


Message 21 of 39 (525378)
09-23-2009 7:47 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by greyseal
09-23-2009 5:40 AM


Correct
Hi,
You are almost completely correct in your summary of me apart from maybe these:
1. I don't know what you mean by troll.
2. I should add that the thing WOT GOD SEZ TO ME happens to be written in ze bible (KJV 1611). I.e. not me making it up...
See it doesn't require more than 5 posts to understand my narrow view.
See ya
P.S. To prevent your eternal demise you need to ask Jesus Christ to save you.
Based on the sub-clause: He died taking your sins on Him.
You don't have to go to hell.
Go on. Try it. He happens to be real you know. Like now at this moment he knows what you are thinking.
Yes he is somewhat more real than a ton of bricks falling on your head...
Consider yourselves warned

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MrGrim
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Posts: 11
From: Jo'burg
Joined: 09-18-2009


Message 22 of 39 (525380)
09-23-2009 7:51 AM
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09-23-2009 7:42 AM



Edited by Admin, : Fix smilies.

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