Re: The difference between 'adapted' and 'advanced'
Adaptation is purely relative to your environment. Take the sperm whale. It's very well adapted to life in the sea, so by your reckoning it's features must be advanced. However, if you put a sperm whale in the middle of the Kalahari, it wouldn't last five minutes
What is the connection of this to the prices, of horses in Germany?
No it doesn't. If you think this is the case, why don't you go and find a reputable source that uses this as the definition of evolution?
Im, very much afaid I cannot for the simple reason that if I present those source you just simply said they are lying, Idont like to waste my effort.
Derived forms are not more advanced, just different. If you said more complex, that might be more accurate, over the long term, but even that is not necessarily true at all times
Different in what sense? Yeah, I know that they are much more complex and more advanced in the same time, like the many machine we observe today, the complex one is more advanced than the other.
Because advanced or not, their genetic inheritance just happened to equip them well enough to survive
Your faith in evolution is showing..Hasty generalization.
If this were true, then the earliest and most primitive lifeforms would inevitably died out as soon as they emerged. Not advanced enough
Emerged from where? According to evolution the development was gradual,not sudden. The fact that we still see those primtive life forms are good evidence that Darwinian evolution is unverefiable,it cannot be tested today.
How does they didn't survive, violate the theory of evolution. Ever heard of survival of the fittest? Those that could adapt survived ie: certain species of the genera, Gorilla, Pan & Homo. There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
About your first two quotes (from Steven Stanley and Niles Eldrege), do you really beleive that these two very prominent paleontologists actually believe that the fossil record is not consistent with evolution?
Those statements, are saying that the evidences are inconflict with there evolutioanary beliefs.
They're on the evolutionary side, remember?
Yes, but they are posting negative comments.
Can you even count the number of times you've been warned not to trust creationist websites when it comes to quotes?
If you study polsci and logic,you will understand why.
Stanley is misquoted. Where you have [slow evolution] he actually said "gradualism." Stanley is an advocate of punctuated equilibrium. So is Eldredge, a colleague of Gould. They're making the point that the fossil record actually indicates that species change can be relatively rapid, with the emphasis on "relatively." They're still talking about thousands of years at a minimum.
If he is an advocate of punctuated equilibrium,he cannot be an advacate of gradualism. Similarly if, a= b,and b is not c then a is not c.
The fossil record is compatible with the descent of chimps, gorillas and humans from a common ancestor, but more relevant is the morphological and genetic similarities. Both morphologically and genetically chimps, gorillas and humans are more similar to each other than to any other animals in the animal kingdom. Chimps, gorillas and apes are all animals. They're all vertebrates. They're all mammals. They're all primates. And they're all apes.
In biology's classification system all animals have to be in some group with other animals until you get down to the bottom level, the species level. Human beings are a unique species, Homo sapiens. We're even unique in our genus, Homo, since we're the only species in this genus. But we're not the only species at the family level, which is called Hominidae, less formally and more ambiguously, apes. Chimps, gorillas and humans share the same Hominidae, or apes, classification group
The primary task of science is to" minimze story telling" and to maximze objective truth", we dont need to call a story teller in making bridges, nor we do call a story teller in manufacturing cars, but we need a one who has profound understanding of the engineering principle. "Science is not an inscrutable priesthood ",so writes onejudge ,hence it follows that it not a matter of faith,but a matter of evidences, but this is conflict with what we observed among proponents of evolution, when they cannot figure out they just said " through billions of years of evolutionary changes" this organism became lke that and this one became like that, this a only a sory telling, indeed those billions of years of evolutionary changes become the "god of the gaps".
No proponents of ID claimed that classification doesnt exist,they exist but what is the connection of that to gradual change on organism, Linneus observed those yet he dont believe that they evolved, he simply group those organism for easy study. In addition, dog and plant breeders observed those small changes, those are micro changes they didn't evoved into something new.
It really violates because according to evolution they supposed to survived
Why are they "supposed" to survive? What would prevent them from being outcompeted by other species?It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
They should supposed to survived, because they are advanced
Advanced is relative, this was pointed out to you with the whale example up thread.
the simple reason why they are not outcompeted is they have advanced features
Features that are considered advanced for a given enviroment might be a detriment when that enviroment changes. Features that are considered to be advanced in relation to other species might not be so great when another more advanced species moves into the nieghbourhood.
Advanced is relative.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor