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Author Topic:   Why are there no human apes alive today?
DrJones*
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Message 116 of 1075 (526165)
09-26-2009 1:34 AM
Reply to: Message 115 by traste
09-26-2009 1:30 AM


It really violates because according to evolution they supposed to survived
Why are they "supposed" to survive? What would prevent them from being outcompeted by other species?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Message 120 of 1075 (526172)
09-26-2009 1:49 AM
Reply to: Message 118 by traste
09-26-2009 1:42 AM


They should supposed to survived, because they are advanced
Advanced is relative, this was pointed out to you with the whale example up thread.
the simple reason why they are not outcompeted is they have advanced features
Features that are considered advanced for a given enviroment might be a detriment when that enviroment changes. Features that are considered to be advanced in relation to other species might not be so great when another more advanced species moves into the nieghbourhood.
Advanced is relative.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Message 124 of 1075 (526177)
09-26-2009 2:09 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by traste
09-26-2009 2:03 AM


Would you mine stating those relativity factors?
I stated 2 of them, enviroment and other species.
So, how does an organism survived in this instance,while it cannot surived in the next instance?
you mind rewriting this to make sense?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Message 138 of 1075 (533001)
10-28-2009 1:08 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by traste
10-28-2009 1:06 AM


If the enviroment was harsh. What do you think will survive better the simple or the complex?
the species that is better adapted to the enviroment.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 213 of 1075 (621027)
06-22-2011 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by Portillo
06-22-2011 6:49 PM


Re: More evolved?
Does pond scum have science and a civilisation like humans?
Does pond scum need science and civilization? can pond scum thrive and live in it's ecological niche without the crutch of technology?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 229 of 1075 (621090)
06-23-2011 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by Mazzy
06-23-2011 2:31 PM


What your research tells you is that humans are not related to any species of ape alive today
Well thats not true at all. We're related to all the apes alive today.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Message 318 of 1075 (621325)
06-25-2011 2:38 AM
Reply to: Message 316 by Percy
06-25-2011 1:13 AM


Re: More evolved?
Notice that a large part of the central portion of Turkana Boy's brow ridge is missing (click on the image to enlarge it and you'll see this clearly), which is why it doesn't appear as prominent in the photograph of the whole skeleton:
Also: as a juvenile features such as the brow ridge would be less developed.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 337 of 1075 (621416)
06-25-2011 7:21 PM
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06-25-2011 6:32 PM


If we were directly decendent from todays species of apes, our ancestry would be knucklewalking, which it isn't.
But WE'RE NOT DIRECTLY DESCENDED FROM CURRENT APE SPECIES so your argument is invalid.
others posters: sorry for shouting but from following the debate it seems Mazzy is particulary dense.
Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 347 of 1075 (621432)
06-25-2011 10:07 PM
Reply to: Message 346 by Mazzy
06-25-2011 9:52 PM


Re: More evolved?
These above are representative of kinds. A cow is Bovinae and a horse is from the family Equidae.
So if kind=family then you agree that Pan troglodytes and Homo sapiens both of the family Hominidae are the same kind.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Message 353 of 1075 (621442)
06-25-2011 10:55 PM
Reply to: Message 349 by Portillo
06-25-2011 10:42 PM


Re: More evolved?
If the missing link between humans and apes has been found,
The so called missing link is not between H. sapiens and apes but between H. sapiens and the various ancestral species.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Message 356 of 1075 (621447)
06-26-2011 1:25 AM
Reply to: Message 355 by Portillo
06-26-2011 12:36 AM


Re: More evolved?
How many missing links between apelike humans and humans can there be?
Who knows?
Do any missing link apes show any signs of having speech, language, logic, self awareness, conscience?
Neanderthal burials have been found, stone tool technolgy was used by them and by H. erectus and H. habilis.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Message 562 of 1075 (622358)
07-02-2011 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 561 by Mazzy
07-02-2011 3:34 PM


Re: Apes have ventured into space and animals that have built automatons.
It is true that evolutionists are the only ones that can place a chimp and human side by side and say they are the same.
Who is saying chimps and humans are the same?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 591 of 1075 (622398)
07-02-2011 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 582 by Portillo
07-02-2011 8:49 PM


Re: More evolved?
Why does man have the thinking and reasoning ability and knowledge that is impossible for other animals to have?
And your evidence that it is impossible for other animals to have these abilities is?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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