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Author Topic:   What would happen if the ToE were disproven? (A suspense/thriller novel project)
greyseal
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Message 9 of 39 (526698)
09-29-2009 4:49 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Dr Adequate
09-29-2009 2:22 AM


speciator machine
Ooh, I like that as a sci fi idea - what you would have to do is replace "natural selection" with "unnatural selection" and "random mutation" with "directed mutation", with the random naturalness that we've seen up until now as the result.
the question remains though (big reveal! spoiler! don't look!) where did the designer of the random speciation machine come from and how?
Another tack you could take is a stable time-loop - some modern-day animal or object gets found in some impossibly-ancient time, so obviously people from the future have been time-travelling into our remote past.
Unfortunately, that does NOT negate ToE and is essentially a different story.
If you want to negate ToE entirely, you need to find a designer/speciator which has created everything we see from start to finish so that everything else still happened, otherwise you've only created a specific instance where some super-being has intervened (and as we've said, even special creation doesn't negate ToE).
Ooh, OOOH, you know what would be an awesome story?
Thousands(?) of years in the future, mankind has developed into a Type II or III civilisation with complete command of time and space and genetics - so sets out once and for all to prove that ToE is true - and through a roundabout set of stable timeloops and massive genetic manipulation, creates FOR ITSELF the entire genetic history of the planet right up to and including the creation of homo sapiens itself.
A self-booting, self-consistent stable time-loop fixing all of history into a known path from at least 5 billion years ago leaving evidence that looks natural to our ancestors, but perpretated entirely by our descendents.
A real head-trip
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greyseal
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Message 15 of 39 (526786)
09-29-2009 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by swalker2001
09-29-2009 9:46 AM


i think you don't get the problem...
even if you found a rabbit in pre-cambrian times, that doesn't still prove that evolution never happened.
You'd have to either
a) completely negate it (the speciation machine)
b) completely replace it (evolution never happened, it was all "artificial")
or
c) some amalgam (microevolution is OKAY, but all the big changes were deliberate by FACTOR X)
otherwise, you get "evolution AND X happened". which is fine, if you want to change the premise.

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