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Author Topic:   A Modern Day Miracle Man - Establishes the Supernatural Realm
Izanagi
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Message 187 of 297 (526541)
09-28-2009 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 185 by Cedre
09-28-2009 9:07 AM


My Prediction
God also speaks through me. Throughout my life, I have received many visions which have miraculously come true. Recently, I received a vision about an accident.
In my vision, I see a day, the day of the tragedy. The accident will occur on the Sabbath day. It will happen in the US and a family will be involved. By family, I mean a husband, wife, and one or two kids. The company of the car involved in the accident is Toyota. And I see the model of the car begins with a C. I hope we all will pray for the tragedy that will occur and that any families out there planning on driving on a Sunday will keep God in their hearts and minds.
I hope that one day you will be my disciple, Cedre. I need supporters like you.
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Izanagi
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Message 190 of 297 (526556)
09-28-2009 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 189 by Hyroglyphx
09-28-2009 10:56 AM


Re: My Prediction
Well, follower might be a better word. Either way, I expect Cedre to hail me as a prophet once my prophecy comes true.
Also, I haven't said that I am the Christ. I'll leave that claim for my followers to make.
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Izanagi
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Posts: 263
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Message 197 of 297 (526667)
09-29-2009 12:47 AM
Reply to: Message 195 by Hyroglyphx
09-28-2009 1:10 PM


Re: My Prediction
Perhaps.
But you have to admit I did make a prediction comparable to the one TB Joshua made. I specified day of the week, method, and people involved. According to Cedre, those are enough to qualify as a valid prediction.
Once my prediction comes true, I hope Cedre, and others like him/her/it, will be willing to make a donation to support me... in the name of God, of course.

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Izanagi
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Message 225 of 297 (527004)
09-30-2009 1:20 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by Cedre
09-29-2009 9:35 AM


Islam...?
Cedre writes:
That is like asking why Jesus or the ancient prophets of God didn't predict the Jewish holocaust, or the world wars or the rise of Islam, a religion that is so antagonistic to the teachings of God in the bible, and is to blame for a lot of bloodshed in our present world, and is directly responsible for the persecution of Christians throughout the middle east and Muslim Africa.
I have a big problem with this statement about Islam. I would like Cedre to remember that Islam is not the only religion with people capable of violence.
I believe there were events in history called the Crusades and the Inquisition. Not only that, Jews once were persecuted and shunned by Christians in Europe, Christians are the ones bombing abortion clinics, Christians were responsible for the near annihilation of the Native Americans, Christians were responsible for condemning innocent people as witches and warlocks, the Catholic Church was responsible for setting back scientific progress hundreds of years with the ridiculous belief in a flat earth and geocentric models of the Universe, Christians nations put the world on the road to World War I, and Christian nations were the biggest Imperial powers in recent history.
It was also a Christian, George W. Bush, who is responsible for US involvement in Iraq by LYING (aka bearing false witness) to the American people and the world.
Don't confuse the religion with the people involved. Humans are stupid and violent regardless of the religion.
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Izanagi
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Message 232 of 297 (527030)
09-30-2009 3:49 AM
Reply to: Message 231 by Cedre
09-30-2009 3:41 AM


Source of divination
Prove to me that his divination comes from God and not from somewhere else.
Bruce Bueno de Mesquita has made many predictions and has a 90% success rate. He uses a computer model to make his predictions. Is his computer a prophet of God? Or is there something to his model that allows him to make predictions.

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Izanagi
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Message 272 of 297 (527196)
09-30-2009 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 264 by Cedre
09-30-2009 10:30 AM


Re: YOu might want to respond to arguments in the post
Cedre, you are confusing two different statistics. On any given day, there is a 1 in 3 chance of an aviation accident. On any given day, a specific individual has a 1 in 25 million chance of being in an aviation accident. Why are these different statistics?
The first deals with how often an aviation accident occurs. Based on given data, we can expect an aviation accident to occur every 3 days. This does not translate to whether or not a specific individual will be involved in the accident. This statistic has little to do with the odds of an individual being involved in an accident, just that an accident will occur every 3 days.
The second deals with the individual and the chances for that individual being involved in an accident. The actual statistic is actually a bit higher on being involved in an aviation accident with at least one fatality, 1 in 9 million, according to this site, but the odds refer to an individual's chances.
This chart from the National Transportation Safety Board, I think, best represents the scale of accidents in a given year for US aviation alone. As you can see, the total number of accidents is never less than 1500 from 1989-2008. During this same period, the number of fatal accidents in any given year is never less than 200. That means we can expect a fatal aviation accident every 1.8 days and any kind of accident every quarter of a day anywhere in the world. These statistics include multiple types of airplanes, except, as I can see, military.
You look at an individual's odds at being involved in a fatal accident. However, looking at odds isn't enough, you need to look at the aggregate numbers. There were 29.6 million flights for the year 2007 and that's just for airlines and doesn't include private aircraft, business aircraft, training aircraft, etc. For the US alone, in 2007, there were 288 fatal accidents and 1650 total accidents. That means only 0.00000097 of flights resulted in a fatal accident. But the number is still 288 fatal accidents for 365 days, which still means 1 fatal accident every 1.27 days or, using total number of accidents, 4.5 accidents per day.
Understand? You are right in saying that an aviation accident is rare. But rare or not, just by the sheer number of flights that occur and the sheer number of flight hours around the world, accidents are bound to happen. It is similar to 10 million people each buying 1 lottery ticket in order to win a lottery in which a person has a 1 in 5 million chance of winning. Two people are probably going to win simply because there are enough tickets to cover the odds, twice. Even though the chances of an aviation accident is rare, and a fatal accident is rarer still, the sheer number of flights and flight hours ensures that it will occur and occur many times.
So TB Joshua predicting an aviation accident for three given days, in which he apparently includes nonfatal accidents, is unimpressive. I could make a similar prediction and be right since it would happen eventually simply because the numbers are in my favor (that is, I can expect 4 aviation accidents per day).
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Izanagi
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Message 273 of 297 (527202)
09-30-2009 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 264 by Cedre
09-30-2009 10:30 AM


Re: YOu might want to respond to arguments in the post
To reiterate my previous point, the sheer number of flights and flight hours ensures that accidents will occur and occur frequently throughout the year, despite being a rare occurrence.
TB Joshua's predictions on aviation accidents would be more impressive if he mentioned a specific person, given and last name, and the month, day, and year that person would be involved in an aviation accident.
And as the Great Prophet Perdition mentioned, the prediction should be made and sealed before an audience of skeptics, scientists, and a TV crew, postmarked and mailed to neutral third party, and opened after the date the accident is supposed to occur in front skeptics, scientists, and a TV crew. That would go a long way to convincing me that he is the genuine article. Otherwise, while I am willing to except some things on faith, I am unwilling to be a patsy.
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