If healing can only come from God to a person that truly believes than why go to TB Joshua? If it only takes truly believing that God can heal you than you wouldn't need TB Joshua at all, right?
No, not quite, the bible says in James 5:14-16
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(14) Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: (15) and the prayer of faith shall save him that is sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, it shall be forgiven him. (16) Confess therefore your sins one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The supplication of a righteous man availeth much in its working.
From this passage there are several things to take home; firstly , the elders of the church are gathered and they pray over the sick individual, anointing him with oil, and this prayer should be accompanied by a level of faith, as stated in V.15, and lastly Christians are urged to pray for one another for healing; so its common to go to a fellow Christian seeking prayer, but most importantly note the last verse stating that the prayer of a righteous man is very effective.
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Mat 9:28-29 And when he had come into the house, the blind men came to him; and Jesus said to them, Have you faith that I am able to do this? They said to him, Yes, Lord. (29) Then he put his hand on their eyes, saying, As your faith is, let it be done to you.
Luk 8:25 And he said unto them, Where is your faith? And being afraid they marvelled, saying one to another, Who then is this, that he commandeth even the winds and the water, and they obey him?
Mat 8:13 Then Jesus said to the officer, "You may go home now. Your faith has made it happen." Right then his servant was healed.
Basically faith is essential in all cases, whether you pray for your own healing all alone or whether you involve others in the prayer, all parties should approach God confidently without doubting. but again God may have his reason for not healing an individual just like he refused to heal Paul, perhaps its a test of faith, I'm not sure but I do know that without faith its not possible to be healed.
What exactly is so miraculous about this? How am I to know that
this women wasn't in labor before the cameras where turned to her?
Do you have any proof for this assertion?
This is not the only woman who has given birth on TB Joshua's command, there are others. It's highly unlikely that these women were already in labor before TB Joshua reached them, because a service at the SCOAN consist of two parts the first part comprises sermonizing, also during this time prophecies if any are delivered, only after this first part is over the healing part of the service gets underway, and its during this time that the sick are prayed including these women. Yet there is no indication that this women are in labor before the prophet reaches them, they are calm and collected observing the other sick people, and then all of sudden when the prophet starts praying for them their water breaks within seconds and the child is born subsequently. The thing about these women is they go the SCOAN because of pregnancy complications, some of them cannot give birth naturally only through a cesarean section, because the baby is positioned wrongly, etc ,and only an operation will help them, they don't treat the SCOAN as a maternity ward they go there only in cases of birth difficulties.
If this woman is experienced in giving birth and has mastered the techniques of managing her own pain she would be so focused that you would never know she was in labor.
There is no evidence that the women who have given birth at the SCOAN were already mothers prior to giving birth there. but what about the instant births, I understand that child birth is a process and it can last for hours, I have heard other cases of instant births but they are very rare, and I could hardly find any reports of them on the web. Yet every women who is prayed for at the SCOAN give birth within a few minutes if not seconds.
as to the leg cancers, they are probably tumorous outgrowths on the legs and therefore are said to be cancers not that they are the result of a leg cancer, but sores that result from cancer. That these aren't actual cancerous wounds without any proof is just another of your increasing claims. You must also know that the SCOAN doesn't put anyone on the prayer line unless they come with a doctor's certificate showing what their problem is. this is a requirement. There is also a form that all international visitors should fill out, on it they must state exactly what their problem is and bring along the necessary medical documents to confirm their conditons.
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