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Author Topic:   Born believers: How your brain creates God
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Message 46 of 48 (498699)
02-12-2009 8:52 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Buzsaw
02-12-2009 7:03 PM

Re: When I Was A Child
Though I don't remember of my teachers praying in school or of my early school teachers advocating Christianity, likely there were references to God in some of the text books or history lessons relative to the founding fathers. In some of he patriotic songs and things like the Pledge of Allegiance there were references to God but not to the point that I had a particular awareness of them. Most of the stories were things like Dick, Jane & Spot or fairy tales, etc. At Christmas it was all Santa. Certainly prayer or Bible reading was neither in the school or home in my experience.

I never heard the term "born again" until I heard it in church. We lived in the country in Wyoming and I never experienced a flush toilet until the 2nd grade, though the year before we moved to town our home had a flush toilet. The one room schoolhouse had a wood pot belly stove and an outhouse. All 8 grades were taught in the school house. When we moved to town that all changed. That was during grade 3.

I don't remember of prayer in our home before we went to church. There was a little prayer I prayed before bed time as a child, but to the best of my recollection that was after we began going to church. It was the one, "Now I lay me down to sleep; I pray the Lord my soul to keep. If I die before I wake, I pray the Lord my soul to take." ....or something like that.

Ok, Buz, I am not going to go round and round with you on this. You believe what you want to believe. That is fine. I just agree to disagree.

For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan
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Message 47 of 48 (527472)
10-01-2009 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Modulous
02-04-2009 5:21 PM

This is your brain on religion
It seems that the subject of this thread has been creeping into common discourse. So I'm bumping it.

An invisible pink unicorn type idea is presented about 15 minutes in:

He argues that religious ideas are basically very human concepts with a little twist. He discusses 'minimally counter-intuitive worlds' where humans might be inclined to believe in a super-intelligent being that created the universe, but not in an invisible pink unicorn (though he talks about a tree that can hear prayers under certain conditions, versus a tree that sits your exams, eats spaghetti and parks your car for you).

Which is possibly one reason why people dismiss IPU type ideas as 'clearly ridiculous'...the IPU is maximally counter-intuitive rather than minimally so.

Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

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Message 48 of 48 (527713)
10-02-2009 11:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by NosyNed
02-04-2009 3:09 PM

Isaiah 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

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