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Raha
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Message 176 of 183 (52912)
08-29-2003 8:20 PM


Homosexuals and transexuals
I apologize if this post will sound too off-topic...
But it intrigues me for some time. I also think there is something like gene for homosexuality or something like that. In any case, people are born as homo- or heterosexuals. This fact was, according to my opinion, well proven already. But what about transexuals? How can anybody be born thinking he is female in male body or vice versa? Is it possible that when somebody realizes that he/she is attracted to the same sex too soon, before he/she can fully grasp it, he/she subconsciously comes to conclusion that his/her sex is not what it seems. If this is the case, what is the ethics of all those operations? This is something I have absolutely no opinion so far (lack of information).
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Raha
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Message 178 of 183 (53185)
09-01-2003 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 177 by crashfrog
08-31-2003 12:42 AM


Your body has a gender, and your brain does, too...
Is it established fact? Some hints where can I learn more?
The same as any operation one might choose to undergo in order to bring one's body in line with one's expectations of their body
Well, I do not think it is that simple. Quite often somebody requires operation which actually harms his/her body, because it is his/her mind which is not OK. Some of those monstrous breast operation are the best example of this. In my opinion they should be denied by physicians. But of course - operations of this kind are good business and sometimes it is much easier to make some "adjustment" to the body then cure the mind (or change the fashion!). So I think that every operation that harms body and brings nothing but illusion is highly unethical.
So if you are right and "brain has gender", than it is OK. If not, than no.
P.S.: I know, of course, that man's brain works rather differently than woman's. But is it enough for anybody to think of himself of man or woman?
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[This message has been edited by Raha, 09-01-2003]

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Raha
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Message 180 of 183 (53192)
09-01-2003 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 179 by crashfrog
09-01-2003 9:24 AM


But the research seems to be pretty clear that there's non-trivial structural differences between the brains of men and women.
Hell, you were too quick! I've just edited my previous post. I know that, of course. But the question is whether those structural differences really define one's gender.
On the other hand the patient themselves may very well have a need for the surgery, which they see as correcting something they were born with.
It is definitely like blessing for many of them, but the source of many problems as well - dependence on artificial hormones and reintegration into society are just two of them. So I am just not sure whether surgery is the best possible solution.
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[This message has been edited by Raha, 09-01-2003]

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