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Calypsis4
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Message 337 of 530 (529535)
10-09-2009 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 335 by Perdition
10-09-2009 6:02 PM


Re: Some facts that you may not be aware of
So you claim, but you have yet to show that to be the case. As an ex-Christian, it seems my prejudices are well founded, as mine are rational, logical and evidence based, rather than the opposite.
You aren't telling the truth. The evidence speaks for itself and it is very strong.
'ex-Christian'. Oh, now I get you. An apostate who turned your back on God's Son. That explains everything.
Well, I'll put it to you this way; The Lord answers my prayers quite often, even when I tell no one else what it is I am praying for. He is very good to me and my Christian companions. But skeptics like you have done nothing but resentment and bitter feelings towards me. So who do you think I am more likely to trust?

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Calypsis4
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Message 341 of 530 (529541)
10-09-2009 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 338 by JonF
10-09-2009 6:08 PM


Re: Some facts that you may not be aware of
That "tooth" don't look much like a tooth to me;
Again, shallow thinking. The tooth was not in question by the scientists who examined it. It was human.

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Calypsis4
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Message 342 of 530 (529544)
10-09-2009 6:13 PM
Reply to: Message 339 by Blue Jay
10-09-2009 6:09 PM


Re: Some facts that you may not be aware of
Please read the following mock post by Bluejay
No.

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Calypsis4
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Message 350 of 530 (529600)
10-09-2009 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 349 by Percy
10-09-2009 8:14 PM


Re: Some facts that you may not be aware of
The first mammal tooth found, said to be a molar of Tetradaenodon
Even if that were true, it doesn't help you. What was a 65 million yr old dinosaur tooth doing encased in a 250 million yr old piece of coal?

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Calypsis4
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Message 351 of 530 (529601)
10-09-2009 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 348 by bluescat48
10-09-2009 7:49 PM


Re: Some facts that you may not be aware of
Why? Because it shows that your posts don't provide evidence and the truth hurts?
Why should I dignify such things with an answer?

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Calypsis4
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Message 353 of 530 (529618)
10-09-2009 9:21 PM
Reply to: Message 340 by Perdition
10-09-2009 6:11 PM


Re: Coal Mine Artifacts
Please read the following mock post by Bluejay
You're just giving opinions. So what?
Let me give you a few things that are NOT opinions:
[thumb=300]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/1SANDLE-PRINT.jpg[/thumb=300]
The evolutionist attempt to refute this one is pitiful. It was found near the 9,500 ft elevation in western Utah.
[thumb=300]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/Jun14156.jpg[/thumb=300]
The Ica pottery of South America. How did the ancients even know what such dinosaurs looked like unless they had seen them?
[thumb=300]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/Jun14158.jpg[/thumb=300]
Then this: thats me examining what appears to be a human footprint stepping inside a dinosaur footprint in northern Arizona.
[thumb=300]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/100_2920-1.jpg[/thumb=300]

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Calypsis4
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Message 365 of 530 (529740)
10-10-2009 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 355 by Percy
10-09-2009 10:09 PM


Re: Some facts that you may not be aware of
Second, the layers were around 60 million years old, not 250 million.
Third, the fossils were not discovered in coal layers.
I don't trust you nor your 'evidence'. I don't trust anything that evolutionists say on such subjects because I have seen them lie so many times.

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Calypsis4
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Message 366 of 530 (529741)
10-10-2009 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 361 by Dr Adequate
10-10-2009 6:51 AM


Re: Coal Mine Artifacts
Apart from the fact that you have been taken in by a clumsy obvious fraud, which has been thoroughly exposed...
I have studied this enough to know that this was not a fraud. You are stilly naive and you are still lying to yourself.

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Calypsis4
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Message 374 of 530 (529996)
10-11-2009 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 367 by AdminNosy
10-10-2009 10:58 AM


Re: Results of study
You do not get to simply assert things. If this is all you can do then you demonstrate that you are unwilling to engage in honest debate.
You mean like you just did?
And when I do offer evidence, even outstanding historical evidence of natural phenomena, a la eclipses in conjuction with what was foretold and verified by historians...you treat it like rubbish.
I don't care if you are an administrator you keep your opinions to yourself.

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Calypsis4
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Message 375 of 530 (529997)
10-11-2009 4:45 PM
Reply to: Message 374 by Calypsis4
10-11-2009 4:38 PM


Re: Results of study
Raptorex:
"Even the smallest schoolchild knows that Tyrannosaurus rex was king of the carnivores. It was giant, ate everything in its path, and ruled the earth for some 20 million years. But now scientists know that T. rex had a pocket-sized predecessor whose appearance is more cute than chilling. A report in the journal Science says that Raptorex kriegsteini existed 60 million years before T. rex with nearly identical physical features, but on a much smaller scale. Raptorex’s adult size was only about 8 feet long and 175 pounds. This discovery completely disrupts all former thinking about the evolution of tyrannosaurids. It was previously thought that their tiny upper limbs developed as a kind of evolutionary trade-off when their bodies grew to monster proportions. The Raptorex fossil proves that these features evolved millions of years before Tyrannosaurus rex evolved into the huge, terrifying predators that would be king until the final destruction of all of the dinosaurs." Puny Predator: T. Rex’s Diminutive 8-Foot-Long Ancestor | Gadgets, Science & Technology
[thumb=400]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/raptorex.jpg[/thumb=400]
The evolutionist position is wrong yet again and the history books will have to be re-written once more. What will they do when they find the remains of a human inside the belly of a T-Rex? I am certain that day is coming.
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Calypsis4
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Message 396 of 530 (530272)
10-12-2009 8:33 PM
Reply to: Message 390 by Percy
10-12-2009 9:50 AM


Re: Selection Pressures
Beneficial mutations may be rare when compared to deleterious mutations, but they occur at a more than sufficient rate
Not it won't.
Here's why: genetic entropy.
Example, the drosophila house fly has been taken through thousands of generations with many and different variations...within the fly family. For instance, in the experiment on flies, out of 3,000 identified mutations for Drosophila melanogaster, none of them produced a more successful fruit fly...& even more, estimates of the rate of all mutations are of the order of 10^8 to 10^9 per nucleotide that is, per ‘letter’ per generation. Maynard Smith, J., 1989. Evolutionary Genetics, Oxford University Press, New York, p.61.
As far as the outcome of mutations they were able to produce things like this:
[thumb=300]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/mutant_fly.jpg[/thumb=300]
and this:
[thumb=200]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/antp.jpg[/thumb=200]
mutated antanae.
But they could never produce anything like this:
[thumb=200]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/TJRA-Bee.jpg[/thumb=200]
Neither nature nor even genetic engineering can produce such an effect. Had they proved that nature could do this or even if they could arrange the DNA code in drosophilas to produce such an organism there would be no debate over creation vs evolution. But the fact is they can't and nature won't cooperate.

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