Your First Ever EVC Post

Cool thread Straggler

I thought I was setting the record straight with this pathetic gem. LOL

I came here because I was writing some blogs on creationist and the issues with ID in schools.

But what I found was some of the smartest people I've ever had a chance to talk to.

Discussions on topics that most people don't bother looking into.

It's been a lot of fun and hopefully I'll make a few friends in the process (which I have).

Are you new here?

This was my first post. It was a little pedantic, and I seem to have thought I was being more insightful than I really was.

Larni writes: I would imagine there is no point in making people believers before they die if you were a god who will get your attention in the end any way, but if you were a priest greedy for converts to fill his coffers or provide man power, then it make perfect sense.that sounds like a good message to put out if you are such a priest (or any other preacher type etc)

AdminAsgara writes:Yes iano, run and run fast. This place is intellectual cocaine.

I'm not positive exactly how this factors in, but it's well established in the oilfield industry that pressure can have a very dramatic influence on "permeability" (approximately rate of diffusion) of gases in whole rocks. Measured perms in "tight gas sands" are frequently lower by a factor of 1000 at realistic native confining pressures than at atmospheric pressure. I would think that there should be some sort of analogy between this inter-grain permeability and the diffusivity along crystal defects that would control helium flow out of zircons. I'm not too sure I have the perseverance to look for documentation, though.

I'm curious to know which claims? Pasteur showed that germs cause things to rot/sour (as opposed to souring and rotting causing germs), and Mendel discovered the idea of dominant genes and heredity...an essential element of evolution. Which claims did these scientists make?And more importantly, what experiments have "actually proved [macroevolution] wrong"? I'd like to see these experiments, they seem to have been underplayed considerably which would be a tragedy for science.

Premises
So, your conclusion is that if you start with faulty premises, you get faulty conclusions? I agree. It isn't a problem with logic - it's a problem for people who use faulty premises.

In conclusion, you have succesfully shown that life has been designed. You have yet to demonstrate how it was designed intelligently. Evolutionary theory proposes a mechanism for both the design and the creation of new creatures, and uses the same evidence. I'm fascinated by the field of ID, but I've only ever seen the 'D' part really discussed. Now, about this 'I' component...how to detect intelligence? That's the golden egg for IDists. Several thousand years later and we aren't massively closer to an answer. Evolutionary theory is less than two centuries old.

...If unicorns of any variety (can something which light passes through, reflect light at a certain wavelength?), were somehow of fundamental importance to souls, I'm sure Christ, or one of the prophets would have mentioned it.Then again, you raise a valid theological issue, perhaps the transubstantiation of the invisible unicorn to a unicorn of specific colour is intertwined in the nature of that which is soul. Perhaps this trinity (invisible, purple, unicorn) is on a strictly need to know basis, and we simply don't need to know.

The scientific method is based on a logical fallacy

The point is why scientific evidences are referred to as theories, since there is a possibility or possibilities that other factors may occur to change the possible outcome. This defines science and states the reason why there is a constant attempt to find the correct answer to any proposed hypothesis and even when accepted there will still be attempts to refine the theory.

Hi Doinker. I am a Christian who has been into Biblical prophecy, archeology and history for about 57 years (since a kid)on my own and having only a year and a half of college, I am not highly "ejucated" so I rely on truth to be able to prevail in debate in this environment of folks, many of whom are more soooofisssssticatedly educated than I. I come here as a nubie, confident that truth shall prevail and that the "foolishness" of truth (in the eyes of the world) shall confound the ever learned looser "garbauge" of the worldly wise. So dear friend, please don't run off. Americans have a fascination with folks like you who are interested enough to cross the language barrier to communicate.

I grew up as a Christian and trusted God implicitly as our church taught. As I got older and actually read more of what was preached I had questions they couldn't answer reasonably.Anyway over the past 3 years I have been digging deeper into the Bible to see the truth that is there. I found a lot more questions.I did a prayer test of my own. I had grown up praying and some prayers were answered and some not. Over the past year I have prayed to the ancesters and some prayers were answered and some were not. I have also stopped myself from praying to see how the situation would pan out and sometimes things went well and sometimes not. I don't feel that one method was any better than the others.Prayers I considered answered did not always come in the form I requested. I just thought to myself "OK not what I asked for but that will work."Now I did not keep track of the statistics, this was for my own purposes only. I don't expect anyone to trust my results. Just thought I would share my own prayer experiences.I also feel that a supernatural being would have no problem making its existence known clearly to an individual if it truly wants our trust. Trust is earned.I do like one passage that says roughly "You will know them by their fruit." I feel the same goes for a god.

PurpleDawn writes:I also feel that a supernatural being would have no problem making its existence known clearly to an individual if it truly wants our trust. Trust is earned.I do like one passage that says roughly "You will know them by their fruit." I feel the same goes for a god.