homosexuality and the Bible

You've answered your own question. Alcoholics harm themselves and those around them.How do we tell the difference between a genetic condition that's harmless, and one that's harmful? By the harm it does.Gay sex isn't any more dangerous than straight sex. Less risk of pregancy, in fact.On the other hand, if a person with the alcoholic gene wanted to drink, and could do so without putting themselves or others at risk, more power to them. Just like anybody else. My moral fabric is inclusive of homosexuality, so there's no unweaving to be done.I guess I don't see what your point is. Alcoholism tends to wreck lives. Gay people live happy, well-adjusted lives. Where's the comparison?

Well, it's my opinion, and I think the research largely bears this out, that women's sexuality tends to be far more fluid than men's. For instance women tend to be aroused by images of both men and women in sexual situations, regardless of their own sexual preference. Also it seems like women are more likely to be truly bisexual (as opposed to incidentally homo- or -heterosexual) than men. Ergo I would submit that women's sexual preference is considerably less affected by their biology. Depends - do they have a moustache? (I have this "moustache" rule about sexuality that all my friends laugh at.)

I guess.... it seems more like he's talking about marriage, to me. I mean, he never really says anything about the kind of sex you can have, for instance "Thou shalt not suck a penis."Splitting hairs, perhaps. It seems more like Jesus was concerned about who you were betraying when you had sex, not who you were having it with, or how you were having it. I guess that may have been my point...

I must have missed the "love" part. Could you back up and show me where you made statements that display your love for homosexuals? All I've been hearing is invective.

I'm sorry, his what?Now, I'm no sexual neophyte, by any means. But largely all my terminology is drawn from watching Sex and the City and, as you can imagine, four women don't talk much about the sexual vernacular of male masturbation.

Why would she do that, though, unless she was sexually attracted to women?Yes, the homosexual behavior is a personal choice. But the preference for the behavior - the sexual preference - is not. It's biology.Why would God make people for whom the idea of having sex with members of the opposite gender is as repellant as homosexual sex must be for you?

Because gender isn't just plumbing. Your body has a gender, and your brain does, too. Generally they're both determined by the same factor in utero, as far as I understand. But they aren't always determined the same way. Ergo, one winds up with a female-structured brain in a male-structured body, or vice-versa. (Actual biologists can step in at any time, here. The same as any operation one might choose to undergo in order to bring one's body in line with one's expectations of their body. I.e. the same as having breast augmentation surgery, or a nose job.

I'll try and find some articles, later today. But the research seems to be pretty clear that there's non-trivial structural differences between the brains of men and women. Well, yes. It wasn't my intent to sweepingly condone breast augmentation (for instance) but rather to say that sex-reassignment surgery probably isn't any better or worse, morally. Needless surgery is best avoided, I think. On the other hand the patient themselves may very well have a need for the surgery, which they see as correcting something they were born with.

I understand that it's generally society that defines your gender, based in part on whatever gender role you decide (or are made) to internalize. But I'd have to talk more with my gender studies friends.There's the physical plumbing, sure. But that doesn't define your gender. It just provides a pretty powerful stimulus to adefine yourself as one gender rather than another.