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Author Topic:   Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize
riVeRraT
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Message 23 of 57 (529487)
10-09-2009 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Percy
10-09-2009 7:55 AM


I like Obama, a lot, but the Nobel Peace Prize? Give me a break! The Nobel committee just came down another notch in my eyes. Here's a YouTube video I found at Google News, they agree with me, so I must be right:
From the youtube video, Russian's have raised their eyebrows. Seems to be going around.

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riVeRraT
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Message 24 of 57 (529493)
10-09-2009 3:42 PM


Obama is full of it....again
If Obama was a man of integrity, he would refuse the Peace Prize. Instead he is just full of smut. Honestly, his whole demeanor changed the day he got elected. Even his walk changed. How dare you Obama take such an award? I honestly hoped for better, so far I am not seeing it.
First Gore gets one for a slide show, now this? By far a huge joke. Yes we can....
Bush's Emergency plan for AIDS relief was a far greater accomplishment than the words of an unaccomplished leader. IMO Bush should have got an award for this.
quote:
The massive funding increases have made anti-retrovirals widely available, saving millions of lives.
From: President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief - Wikipedia
This has probably been a foundation for peace more than anything Obama has done, or pledged to do.
Obama kills a fly, get s a hand shake, and gets the award? Big freaking joke. Gore too, give me a break, there are far better people than those 2 baboons. Crap, Michael Jackson should have gotten one. He did more to bring this world together than anyone I can think of.
Not only that, I think the ballots for this prize were entered after Obama had only 12 days in office. You have big shoes to fill Obama, you better deliver, especially after accepting this award.
We'll be waiting patiently, you got 3 more years.

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riVeRraT
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Message 46 of 57 (530361)
10-13-2009 7:02 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by Taz
10-09-2009 4:24 PM


Re: Obama is full of it....again
TaZ writes:
You are attacking Obama for something he did not do. He certainly did not nominate himself. He certainly did not advocate himself to be selected. The news came as a surprise to him as much as anyone else. If anything, I still think this is a prank pulled on us by the committee.
Again, get your head out of your ass, riverrat. I don't like this year's award anymore than you do. As I pointed out many times before, you're just looking for a reason to dislike Obama, no matter how ridiculous your reason is.
I am attacking Obama for something he did do, as well as I am attacking the liberal world for nominating him, and giving him the award.
As usual, you have resorted to insults, unfounded ones too. Pretty pathetic, and a typical liberal tactic. Let's clear up some stuff, shall we? Basically your whole post, and response to me was false, unfounded, and a waste of good internet space.
First off, there has been a person who refused the Nobel Peace Prize. L ức Thọ of Thailand refused the award citing that his country was at war.
quote:
L ức Thọ and Henry Kissinger were jointly awarded the 1973 Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts in negotiating the Paris Peace Accords. However, he declined to accept the award, stating that there was still no peace in his country.
Secondly, between the years of 1939, and 1943, no awards were handed out because of the second world war. I am assuming there was no award handed out because everyone was at war, and nobody was really trying to stop it. Our country is at war, Obama should not have even been considered if you ask me. Nobody really likes war, including Bush, but we are at war, with no plans to stop in the near future.
Third, let's take a close up look at the nomination process:
quote:
September — Invitation letters are sent out. The Nobel Committee sends out invitation letters to individuals qualified to nominate — members of national assemblies, governments, and international courts of law; university chancellors, professors of social science, history, philosophy, law and theology; leaders of peace research institutes and institutes of foreign affairs; previous Nobel Peace Prize Laureates; board members of organizations that have received the Nobel Peace Prize; present and past members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; and former advisers of the Norwegian Nobel Institute.
February — Deadline for submission. The Committee bases its assessment on nominations that must be postmarked no later than 1 February each year. Nominations postmarked and received after this date are included in the following year's discussions. In recent years, the Committee has received close to 200 different nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The number of nominating letters is much higher, as many are for the same candidates.
February-March — Short list. The Committee assesses the candidates' work and prepares a short list.
March-August — Adviser review. The short list is reviewed by permanent advisers and advisers specially recruited for their knowledge of specific candidates. The advisers do not directly evaluate nominations nor give explicit recommendations.
October — Nobel Laureates are chosen. At the beginning of October, the Nobel Committee chooses the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates through a majority vote. The decision is final and without appeal. The names of the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates are then announced.
December — Nobel Laureates receive their prize. The Nobel Peace Prize Award Ceremony takes place on 10 December in Oslo, Norway, where the Nobel Laureates receive their Nobel Prize, which consists of a Nobel Medal and Diploma, and a document confirming the prize amount.
So, someone way back in September was thinking of nominating Obama for his efforts at peace.......before he was even President......lmfao. Then the submission was done by Feb1, Obama hadn't even done anything yet.
Obama knows all this. His cute little acceptance speech was a bunch of BS too. "A call to action"???? No Obama, your Presidency is a call to action, not the Nobel Peace prize. The Nobel Peace prize is based on accomplishments. If you were a man of integrity, you would have refused it, and hoped to actually do something, and fulfill your campaign promises over the next 3 years. That's what I would have done if I was in his shoes.
This clearly demonstrates to me what I seen the day he got elected. He is all about himself. His whole demeanor changed the day he got elected down to his walk. My wife who is for him was even like wtf is up with that walk? He wants it all, that's what I see.
He's also a politician. If he refuses, the message the rest of the world will get is either "I'm too good for the Nobel peace prize" or "the committee is stupid..." This is why nobody, and that's a big NOBODY, has ever refused a Nobel peace prize. And likewise, nobody will ever refuse a Nobel peace prize.
So, no he would not be sending that message, and yes the committee IS stupid, and you are wrong about nobody refusing the Nobel Peace prize.
Will we hear about what a stupid decision this was in the media? Unlikely for the most part.
The funniest thing about your post is this:
TaZ writes:
First of all, I'd like to express my opinion that I honestly thought this was a prank pulled on us by the nobel peace prize committee. Too bad this is getting less and less likely to be a prank.
Then you go on and rant about how I have my head up my ass for thinking the same thing. Your a hypocrite TaZ. You feel he doesn't deserve it, just as I do. The only difference is you think he should accept it, because no one has ever refused it. Well someone has refused it. That wouldn't be a valid reason for refusing it anyway. The reason for refusing it would be because 1. you haven't actually done anything, and 2. your country is still at war.
Who has their head up their ass?
Before this happened, I really didn't know shit about the Nobel Peace prize, but before I blurted my mouth out here on a public forum, I studied it a little bit. I read the qualifications, I read the history of the award, and I used a bit of common sense to determine that the committee is BS, the nominator is BS, and Obama is BS for accepting it. If they couldn't find a better candidate, then should have waited until next year.
That's just me though....

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riVeRraT
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Message 47 of 57 (530646)
10-14-2009 11:53 AM


FF
Fast forward to today, I heard on the news that the judges were a bit shocked to see that Obama was uncomfortable in accepting the award. The judges must be retards.
I definitely would respect Obama if he refused the award, and understand his reluctance to refuse it. It is not too late.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 49 of 57 (532996)
10-27-2009 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by onifre
10-21-2009 12:53 AM


Re: Fidel Castro's opinion on the Peace Prize
From the article:
If Obama was awarded the Nobel for winning the elections in a racist society despite his being African American, Evo deserves it for winning them in his country despite his being a native and his having delivered on his promises.
Well that is not why Obama got the award. He also doesn't seem to have an understanding of who deserves the award, and why. I don't even think Castro wrote that.

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