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Author Topic:   'Some still living' disproves literal truth of the bible
Calypsis4
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Message 6 of 479 (530389)
10-13-2009 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Peepul
10-12-2009 1:29 PM


This is impossible to reconcile with reality. If taken literally, the implication is that some of Jesus' audience are still alive today OR that Jesus has already come again, neither of which are true.
It was fulfilled, in part, in the experience of the apostle John who saw the kingdom come in Revelation. Some of the other disciples got a glimpse of it also. Check out Pauls words in II Corinthians 12:2. The 'man in Christ above 14 years ago' was actually himself. But even if one doesn't take that as Paul himself, whoever it was saw the kingdom.
Best wishes.

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Calypsis4
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Message 9 of 479 (530399)
10-13-2009 11:03 AM
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10-13-2009 10:53 AM


So where is the evidence that John wrote revelation and that it wasn't written much later from compilations of earlier writings?
Why would it be in question to begin with?

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Calypsis4
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Message 14 of 479 (530433)
10-13-2009 1:18 PM
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10-13-2009 12:22 PM


the kingdom in real time
What, pray tell, is the 'kingdom in real time'?
Where did Jesus use that phrase?
Check out John 5:25, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, AND NOW IS, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live."
How can something be 'coming'(future) and yet be 'now is'(present)?
The concepts of past, present, and future, have a different meaning for those in eternity. God is a tripartite Being who exists in the past, present, and future all at once. And when we see Him we shall be like Him for we shall see Him as He is.
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