Hi, Hooah.
hooah212002 writes:
A question I have often thought about, especially since seeing Kirk and his "crocoduck", is: what would a creationist allow as a transitional? So far it seems as though only some crazy monster that infuses 2 animals is going to be sufficient.
It doesn't matter: the entomological community already knows about crazy monsters on par with Kirk Cameron's "crocoducks." Here's my favorite (it's not a
fossil intermediate form, but I've been wanting to post this for some time now, and this is as good an excuse as I think I'm going to get):
Little Yucatan mantis, Mantoida maya
And, for reference, another mantis and a cockroach:
Chinese mantis, Tenodera aridifoliaAmerican cockroach, Periplaneta americana
Due to image rights, I won't post the images here. They all come from BugGuide.net, which is a good resource for pictures of insects, spiders and other arthropods.
Particularly, compare the cockroach, side by side, with the Little Yucatan mantis. Then, compare the Little Yucatan mantis's head and forelimbs to the Chinese mantis's head and forelimbs.
You might could call this a "cockroach with a mantis's head and forelimbs," or a "mantis in a cockroach's body."
Bluejay's guide to interpreting the mantis and cockroach affinities of the Little Yucatan mantis* writes:
Most mantids have the prothorax (the body segment behind the head, to which the first pair of legs is attached) elongated, along with the fore-coxae (the first segment of the first pair of legs), both of which adaptations help them snatch prey. However,
Mantoida does not have either of these adaptations: as a cursorial animal (much like a cockroach), it needs all six legs for running. Thus, it maintains its cockroach-like body and legs, but developed a hook on the end of the foretibia (i.e., at the "wrist" of the forelimbs), which eventually became the famous raptorial forelimbs in the more traditional mantids.
Note also that
Mantoida runs on the tarsus of its forelimbs (that's the last segment of the forelimb, usually divided into five sub-segments in most insects). The more derived mantids have the foretarsus reduced (cf.
Tenodera photo above), and don't really use it for running.
Finally, as a side note, molecular studies by Svenson and Whiting (from BYU, where I did my undergrad) place
Mantoida at the base of the Mantodea (mantises), nearest the cockroaches (with the exception of one mantis genus,
Chaeteessa, which is similar to
Mantoida in all the characteristics I listed in this post).
*Not an actual publication
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Conclusion: The evidence meets even the most outlandish and inane of creationist demands, including the "crocoduck" criterion!
-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)
Darwin loves you.